How ’bout we limit it to once a month as a new thread? That way the people who want to post something can dig up the last one and add to it, but it keeps it off the front page? It would allow you to judge interest as well… good compromise?
So I answered this question in the wrong place. Please see “Huckabee & Obama” Isn’t enough that is all we hear about when we turn on the news these days?! We do not need it in our internet/social relief.
If people have GOSSIP about political events or politicians, let it fly. There are plenty of blogs out there were people can talk about general politics, news, and the election.
For example, when a prominent, wealthy [read: Farmington CC member] lawyer in town responded to my Craigslist ad selling something and offered me 40% of the asking price because he claimed he was poor, I wanted to gossip about it. This site didn’t exist back then, though.
Leave the political banter for those with nothing important to discuss. I don’t think Hillary/Obama/Huckabee would even register a blip on the radar of local topics such as “Siips-Crush-Enoteca; the three headed wine-monster of Charlottesville.” With serious issues like this facing our local social scene, who needs caucus discussion?
The one problem I’ve noticed on other stops on the web highway is that you can have two or three people who are intransigient (doesn’t matter which end of the political spectrum) and you have endless back and forth of these people linking to other websites that make their inane argument. There’s no substantive discussion unless you consider “You’re an idiot and here’s a link to a site that outlines how people like you are idiots” repeated ad infinitum great dialogue.
One of the New Yorker cartoons I have up in my office shows two dogs chatting and the tagline is “I had a blog of my own for a while, but I decided to go back to just pointless, incessant barking.” (google it for the image)
Like KCB, that’s how I feel about 99% of political blogs.
Quick thoughts. I think that for most people the big 3 topics not to discuss in public are money, religion, and politics. I can understand the first two, but I don’t see any problem with polite, thoughtful posts about politics, which is what I would expect to find here. I feel like this site’s got a pretty tight group of readers/posters. I wouldn’t expect any posts like “you’re supporting the so-and-so party? how can you be such a nutter?” And while I read a lot of political blogs (TPM, Daily Dish, etc.), I don’t know anywhere else I could find the pulse of local, generally like-minded folk on national issues.
Lys- I’m not sayin’ I’m all “I must talk about politics all the time, I have an itch!” I’m just sayin it’s okay to talk about things happening politically sometimes… And you can make fun of me too, I’m cool with that.
Caroline, I agree. I just get nervous as this town can get a bit overly political at times and I’d hate for that to become a predominent theme here (but that’s just me being selfish).
I second Lys. Although I consider myself a news junkie, I wouldn’t want to see cVillain talk politics everyday, or maybe even every week. Just when big stuff happens (locally or nationally).
Yes, on local issues. Like Jim Camblos continuing to be a cry baby about losing to Denise Lunsford. He needs to be outed for not going away quietly and with dignity. Believe me, if she were a male, this crap would not be going on. I believe there is an orchestrated effort to undermine her or tarnish her and it should be outed so the good ‘ole boys cannot get away with this crap.
SS,
Based on who I think reads and posts here, I respectfully disagree. Maybe I’m being naive, but I think most folks see this as a community, or as I do, as a loose group of friends and acquaintances. I occasionally talk politics with friends (i.e. once every four years, at times like these), and I don’t think that’d be a problem here.
Off to work.
Dan from Eppies, I believe you are right, and I insist the fourth is sports, “thou shall not discuss sports” (because then i get a migraine headache) And for that same reason I do not watch CNN or any other news channel, I a severely allergic to talking heads and their endless stream of “I think I think yaddiyadiya.” BUT we are much more clever and funny, and we discuss everything because we don’t have to pay per millimeter of space we have infinite internet pages at our disposal, and those who wants to give their two cents on politics, well it does concern us on a global, national and local level, why shouldn’t they?
LET us posteroo about politics.
And I would like to see a poll (because I get really hot for numbers and statistics) if we had our primaries today who would you vote for.
The accuracy is in the weather because of the skewed representation of readers/writer on this site, but it would give an interesting preview, and food for discussion.
Thor I leave it in your hands who would you vote for:
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Hillary Clinton
Bill Richardson
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Dennis Kucinich
Mike Huckabee
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson
John McCain
Ron Paul
Rudy Giuliani
Duncan Hunter
Republican and Democrat Debates tomorrow night at 7pm on ABC. I know I’ll be watching. Smiley, what about you? WooHoo let’s talk about politics….oh shit, maybe I should start a political blog, cause we don’t want to talk about politics on here.
I think the really important thing isn’t so much what people talk about, but who’s talking. This site is pretty insular (I mean that in a good way) and I would think it’d be OK to hear many of the posters talk about politics… or hell, money or religion or sports, or sex. (Huh? You already talk about sex? Oh, right.)
My take is that you guys should just moderate after the fact - if somebody starts acting like an ass, just delete their post. It’s not a democracy, exactly, but half the fun is seeing what people say. I realize that might sound time-consuming, but after a few deleted posts, the real assholes get bored and move on.
(BTW, Lys, it may be an old joke, but the New Yorker comic totally made me laugh out loud. So perfect.)
I think the strength of this blog is the local flavor. I agree that you can not / should not attempt to contol the content or comments, except for vulgarity and such. I wish not to include the discussion of national politics here. It’s fun now and sometimes educational….don’t wreck it.
Most importantly, I don’t want to hear all you libs…you all drive me nuts!!!
#27 caroline, I will be out of town, but watching the debates (sorry to all who don’t want political posts . . . I understand but I just can’t help myself.) According to an AP story in today’s Progress, it’s possible that the Virginia primaries could play a pivitol role in deciding the nominees for both parties (is that enough local slant to make this post acceptable?) Maybe the villain should consider an endorsement . . .
Ethan will have sand in his over-serious vagina no matter what. Sorry bro. Your stoic realism is welcome here at villialand. Just forgive me for favoring absurdity.
Say what you want about politics in this day but it is so cool seeing a hispanic, a black, and a woman leading the way for the nomination. I’m misty eyed
So the guy who spoke against political discussion on this blog is now discussing politics … by himself. How did that happen? Where’s your sense of public duty?
you may need to go walk b’yo home from Mas….yes, yes, tell all the lovely ladies how smart you are about the debates (*wink) have fun….nitey nite. (yes, rugrat and she gets up earrrrrrrrrrly!) nitey silm. wow I am truly a cyber dork…..welcome to the internet.
did anyone understand that McCain was tortured in the
Hanoi Hilton for 6 years? …. thus the crooked face and other wounds -not funny…however, I’m for Ron Paul
Also, can tell me why they would vote for Edwards? He yammers on and on about health care, but it’s people like him that are responsible for the ridiculous cost of heath care in America. The are two types of people to blame for the health care mess: litigation lawyers and fat people.
Ron Paul might not win this year, but his martyrdom will be a catalyst for major change in American politics in the years to come.
Yeah, just like Perot…
Face it - we’ve got a Gaius Marius or a Sulla in the White House (without the military prowess) - how long before the Julii rise? Our Republic is doing a nice Coriolis effect right down the shitter…
Just pray we get an Augustus (I call dibs on being the next Caligula). Cincinnatus ain’t coming to save us.
(btw, Caroline, I’m a pure bred Libertarian, baby )
I think that there are more libertarians per capita in the 18-25 year old demographic than any other age group. So in 15-20 years we might actually get our way. Ron Paul has like 41% of the support on facebook, which might not seem relevant, but I think it can be seen as indicative of the growing support of libertarianism among the youngest bloc of voters.
In 15 to 20 years your demographic will be homeowning, child-rearing, and too invested in society to want to tear it down. I like RP’s hutzpah but I think libertarianism is ill-conceived. Government is necessary and in many instances good. Libertarians tend to forget the important role the government plays in their own success. To wit, anti-government coffee shop owners on the mall… they claim they owe their success to their own hard work and vision, and that the government is just a burden. While I won’t underestimate the importance of their hard work and vision, I would say that if it wasn’t for the fact that the government spent tax dollars to build the mall, their coffee cart would have gone out of business well before it had a chance to blossom into the business it is today.
GW Bush has done more to increase the support for libertarianism than any big spending Democrat every could have. I think it’s ill-conceived too, but that’s another story… reminds me an Ayn Rand plot “a novel wherein the industrialists of America go on strike and retreat to a mountainous hideaway, where they build an independent free economy with gold currency. The American economy and its society in general, deprived of its most productive members, slowly start to collapse.” Add Angelina Jolie (Atlas Shrugged). If she’s exploiting it, libertarianism must be popular!
‘nuther vote for Obama/McCain, that’ll be it for Giuliani, Thompson. But Huckabee, Romney and Ron Paul (who’ll do surprisingly well tomorrow) will stick around. Hillary third, and fading fast!
Ron Paul will kick it into high gear tomorrow, but not will be forgotten in a two weeks
Edwards will come in a miserable third but will last through SC (and maybe a little longer)
Surprise of the eve: Richardson will come close to beating Edwards, giving him a few weeks more to live AND a (remote but) possible Veep gig. If not, he’ll be offered Sec of State or UN or some shit he won’t take
I don’t think cvillain should cover national political issues unless it pertains to something locally directly.
How ’bout we limit it to once a month as a new thread? That way the people who want to post something can dig up the last one and add to it, but it keeps it off the front page? It would allow you to judge interest as well… good compromise?
cvillian is about power. people post, people comment. who are we to edit? People will respond accordingly and the blog will spin on an even axis.
I’m guessing the threads will be longer when there is smooching involved or food.
When people say stupid shit about politics, it makes my stomach churn… then I flee
So I answered this question in the wrong place. Please see “Huckabee & Obama” Isn’t enough that is all we hear about when we turn on the news these days?! We do not need it in our internet/social relief.
If people have GOSSIP about political events or politicians, let it fly. There are plenty of blogs out there were people can talk about general politics, news, and the election.
For example, when a prominent, wealthy [read: Farmington CC member] lawyer in town responded to my Craigslist ad selling something and offered me 40% of the asking price because he claimed he was poor, I wanted to gossip about it. This site didn’t exist back then, though.
Leave the political banter for those with nothing important to discuss. I don’t think Hillary/Obama/Huckabee would even register a blip on the radar of local topics such as “Siips-Crush-Enoteca; the three headed wine-monster of Charlottesville.” With serious issues like this facing our local social scene, who needs caucus discussion?
The one problem I’ve noticed on other stops on the web highway is that you can have two or three people who are intransigient (doesn’t matter which end of the political spectrum) and you have endless back and forth of these people linking to other websites that make their inane argument. There’s no substantive discussion unless you consider “You’re an idiot and here’s a link to a site that outlines how people like you are idiots” repeated ad infinitum great dialogue.
One of the New Yorker cartoons I have up in my office shows two dogs chatting and the tagline is “I had a blog of my own for a while, but I decided to go back to just pointless, incessant barking.” (google it for the image)
Like KCB, that’s how I feel about 99% of political blogs.
we should be free to discuss whatever is on our minds, you have the freedom to go to the next page.
You also have the freedom to start your own political blog, and we have the freedom to make fun of posters with a political itch to scratch : )
Quick thoughts. I think that for most people the big 3 topics not to discuss in public are money, religion, and politics. I can understand the first two, but I don’t see any problem with polite, thoughtful posts about politics, which is what I would expect to find here. I feel like this site’s got a pretty tight group of readers/posters. I wouldn’t expect any posts like “you’re supporting the so-and-so party? how can you be such a nutter?” And while I read a lot of political blogs (TPM, Daily Dish, etc.), I don’t know anywhere else I could find the pulse of local, generally like-minded folk on national issues.
Lys- I’m not sayin’ I’m all “I must talk about politics all the time, I have an itch!” I’m just sayin it’s okay to talk about things happening politically sometimes… And you can make fun of me too, I’m cool with that.
Caroline, I agree. I just get nervous as this town can get a bit overly political at times and I’d hate for that to become a predominent theme here (but that’s just me being selfish).
I second Lys. Although I consider myself a news junkie, I wouldn’t want to see cVillain talk politics everyday, or maybe even every week. Just when big stuff happens (locally or nationally).
You idiot republicans are driving me nuts!
Dan - Since when do we have civilized conversations about anything on this site? Once comment 15 rolls around, it’s crazy-town around here
Yes, on local issues. Like Jim Camblos continuing to be a cry baby about losing to Denise Lunsford. He needs to be outed for not going away quietly and with dignity. Believe me, if she were a male, this crap would not be going on. I believe there is an orchestrated effort to undermine her or tarnish her and it should be outed so the good ‘ole boys cannot get away with this crap.
I can’t stand Jim Camblos! He’s none-too-bright, mildly evil, and, quite frankly, looks a bit too much like Dick Cheney for my own comfort.
mark my words: politics will be the death of this site
SS,
Based on who I think reads and posts here, I respectfully disagree. Maybe I’m being naive, but I think most folks see this as a community, or as I do, as a loose group of friends and acquaintances. I occasionally talk politics with friends (i.e. once every four years, at times like these), and I don’t think that’d be a problem here.
Off to work.
Thanks Dan. Have fun at work
Dan from Eppies, I believe you are right, and I insist the fourth is sports, “thou shall not discuss sports” (because then i get a migraine headache) And for that same reason I do not watch CNN or any other news channel, I a severely allergic to talking heads and their endless stream of “I think I think yaddiyadiya.” BUT we are much more clever and funny, and we discuss everything because we don’t have to pay per millimeter of space we have infinite internet pages at our disposal, and those who wants to give their two cents on politics, well it does concern us on a global, national and local level, why shouldn’t they?
LET us posteroo about politics.
And I would like to see a poll (because I get really hot for numbers and statistics) if we had our primaries today who would you vote for.
The accuracy is in the weather because of the skewed representation of readers/writer on this site, but it would give an interesting preview, and food for discussion.
Thor I leave it in your hands who would you vote for:
Barack Obama
John Edwards
Hillary Clinton
Bill Richardson
Joe Biden
Chris Dodd
Dennis Kucinich
Mike Huckabee
Mitt Romney
Fred Thompson
John McCain
Ron Paul
Rudy Giuliani
Duncan Hunter
ill setup a poll soon!
gotta agree with Danny boy!
Oh fine. Go ahead, talk politics
Republican and Democrat Debates tomorrow night at 7pm on ABC. I know I’ll be watching. Smiley, what about you? WooHoo let’s talk about politics….oh shit, maybe I should start a political blog, cause we don’t want to talk about politics on here.
I think the really important thing isn’t so much what people talk about, but who’s talking. This site is pretty insular (I mean that in a good way) and I would think it’d be OK to hear many of the posters talk about politics… or hell, money or religion or sports, or sex. (Huh? You already talk about sex? Oh, right.)
My take is that you guys should just moderate after the fact - if somebody starts acting like an ass, just delete their post. It’s not a democracy, exactly, but half the fun is seeing what people say. I realize that might sound time-consuming, but after a few deleted posts, the real assholes get bored and move on.
(BTW, Lys, it may be an old joke, but the New Yorker comic totally made me laugh out loud. So perfect.)
you guys are a trip.
I think the strength of this blog is the local flavor. I agree that you can not / should not attempt to contol the content or comments, except for vulgarity and such. I wish not to include the discussion of national politics here. It’s fun now and sometimes educational….don’t wreck it.
Most importantly, I don’t want to hear all you libs…you all drive me nuts!!!
Ohh yeah Jack, well I see that as a challnege, don’t you say don’t to me. Here comes politics
I see this as a challnege too…oh that’s challenge…here comes don’t… let’s talk about the NBA.
Nice spelling come back Jack ..Ouch my head
It’s not your spelling…it’s your comprehension.
I am suggesting to keep the focus of the blog on local issues of interest.
#27 caroline, I will be out of town, but watching the debates (sorry to all who don’t want political posts . . . I understand but I just can’t help myself.) According to an AP story in today’s Progress, it’s possible that the Virginia primaries could play a pivitol role in deciding the nominees for both parties (is that enough local slant to make this post acceptable?) Maybe the villain should consider an endorsement . . .
ok, which political party wants to pay us the most?.. we are officially on the auction block, bidding starts at $5,000 dollars for an endorsement.
Now that’s American democracy.
JOE GIBBS FOR PRESIDENT!! (assuming the 4th quarter ends as it had begun)
I withdraw my nomination…
damn oy, they lost. aaaaaaarrrrrrrgggggggghhhhhhhhh!
who’s watching the debates with me?? Mitt Romney’s a tool.
ABC is marketing the debates as “One Night Two Parties” … Sounds like a certain film we all know
His fucking name is “Mitt”. The stepford candidate. Total toolbox.
Dont get me started on the poly ticks……
Imagine when Romney was in little league and had to write his name on his… um… glove.
ha ha funny
hu hu … he said “erect”
b’yo that was some funny shit. hahahaha!
mitt’s hair is so pretty.
Or when his mom was baking cookies and they were done but she couldn’t handle the hot tray and had to ask him to hand her the oven mitt…
“Hand me the oven, mitt”
“But its huge… and hot!”
Is anyoine else bothered by McCain’s face: it’s is asymetrical.
Yo, you should write for letterman
Yow. Is that fuckabee’s daughter?
McCain’s gonna punch oven mitt
speak up ron paul!
is McCain wearing white eye shadow
he’s wearing poopy pants
fuckng funnnyyyy, C
God these guys love obama
he said penalize
silm, we are so gonna get Penalized for this…..
Two parties 1 cup
Penalization is looking increasingly good during this long absence of Clitorforcation
are you going to stick around for the dems?
Yes indeedy.
Penalize…?
I’ll be in my bunk.
Im stuck at home all night. Just me and this bottle of tequila. Expect grammar a spelling to begin to fail miserably.
But this is the drunk posting spot right?
You’re in the right place B yo. You are amongst friends
it’s just the 3 of us….we’re all alone….
public enemy #1!
im drunky
on politics!
did you guys see obama’s speech in Iowa. Well worth watching
Quarter bottle in plus benzos, I’ll try to hang with you as long as I can…
then it will just be caroline and silmo, sittin in a tree, posting on politics as clever as can be….
Can I jump in here, or is it invite only?
Oh! Bama! Yeah man, he quite the orator.
Yah know, some people have a way with words, and others well, just not have way.
hips!!!!!
jump on in hip-doof!
Is clinton falling asleep?
john edwards needs botox
Edwards blew the question… too busy taking notes, or is he playing sudoku?
is bamas head shrinking or are his ears getting bigger? Is it just me?
No more clintons or bushes! What is this 16th century europe?
John Edwards *is* botox.
welcome doof!
hils hair looks pretty too, she and mitt must have the same hair person
Bill Richardson has a time machine! He’s going to seek cooperation from the soviet union! anybody catch that?
John Edwards *is* a time machine!
/Im not really contributing am I?
Of course you are
C What are you doin’ Are you making out?
ethans gonna be mad at us
hillary does NOT look happy. I love it!
You go girl!
Nice one Richardson. Wanna join our blog
I’ve been in hostage situations that are a lot more civilized than this
Ethan will have sand in his over-serious vagina no matter what. Sorry bro. Your stoic realism is welcome here at villialand. Just forgive me for favoring absurdity.
/oh so drinky, meds kicking in…
b’yo nitey nite love
Sandy Vagina: my new handle
lmao!
no way! off to mas for tuna. will report back. no nitey nite. no!
tuna! (not a metaphor)
Say what you want about politics in this day but it is so cool seeing a hispanic, a black, and a woman leading the way for the nomination. I’m misty eyed
I hear Mas serves great metaphor
Well put edwards
Damn did she just blame edwards for natalie’s death?
silm, you are making me cry…
hey, I just saw comment #85
of course i’m making out…duh
sorry, I switched over to football… back now
reality break!
this is only gonna make sense to us, and maybe b’yo, if he’s still awake, I think I heard him snoring tho.
So the guy who spoke against political discussion on this blog is now discussing politics … by himself. How did that happen? Where’s your sense of public duty?
fuck sand, I think Hillary has gravel in her vagina
oh you guys ARE there. Ignore last comment
B Yo’s at Mas eating tuna and metaphor
Damn hip, Hillary issue???
So politician’s get free dinner and cocktails…
I hereby announce my candidacy for…
teddy fucking roosevelt bitches
Time to decide if I’m going out or staying in tonight… any input?
I am staying in but you should go out; lot’s of ladies just itchin’ to know how the debates went … they’ll be eating (metaphor) out of your hands
you clearly do not have children hip.
3 kids caroline, but I’ve got a 14 year old (dog) to babysit them. j/k
nope, no rugrats
we’ve done our civic duty. now we can drink … more
you may need to go walk b’yo home from Mas….yes, yes, tell all the lovely ladies how smart you are about the debates (*wink) have fun….nitey nite. (yes, rugrat and she gets up earrrrrrrrrrly!) nitey silm. wow I am truly a cyber dork…..welcome to the internet.
sleep well Caroline
Have fun Doof
cover politics if you must. but please don’t.
haha, tata-taaaa……got a lot of restaurant coverage..what y’all been talking ’bout?
Snoring? Oh please. Never ever underestimate the tolerance of my system for various substances.
yeah yeah… I know, I should be ashamed.
tuna was good though. metaphor, not so much.
did anyone understand that McCain was tortured in the
Hanoi Hilton for 6 years? …. thus the crooked face and other wounds -not funny…however, I’m for Ron Paul
Now that’s funny!
Ron Paul might not win this year, but his martyrdom will be a catalyst for major change in American politics in the years to come.
Also, can tell me why they would vote for Edwards? He yammers on and on about health care, but it’s people like him that are responsible for the ridiculous cost of heath care in America. The are two types of people to blame for the health care mess: litigation lawyers and fat people.
you can’t deny the huge grassroots effort going on to support Ron Paul, it is everywhere….
and yes I will make out with libertarians….
and ethan, didn’t you hear Mitt Romney saying we shouldn’t “blame” the pharmaceutical companies……hahahahhhahahaaaahahahaha!
Ethan is a bitter fat old man
Who lives at home alone with 17 cats
Yeah, just like Perot…
Face it - we’ve got a Gaius Marius or a Sulla in the White House (without the military prowess) - how long before the Julii rise? Our Republic is doing a nice Coriolis effect right down the shitter…
Just pray we get an Augustus (I call dibs on being the next Caligula). Cincinnatus ain’t coming to save us.
(btw, Caroline, I’m a pure bred Libertarian, baby
)
I think that there are more libertarians per capita in the 18-25 year old demographic than any other age group. So in 15-20 years we might actually get our way. Ron Paul has like 41% of the support on facebook, which might not seem relevant, but I think it can be seen as indicative of the growing support of libertarianism among the youngest bloc of voters.
In 15 to 20 years your demographic will be homeowning, child-rearing, and too invested in society to want to tear it down. I like RP’s hutzpah but I think libertarianism is ill-conceived. Government is necessary and in many instances good. Libertarians tend to forget the important role the government plays in their own success. To wit, anti-government coffee shop owners on the mall… they claim they owe their success to their own hard work and vision, and that the government is just a burden. While I won’t underestimate the importance of their hard work and vision, I would say that if it wasn’t for the fact that the government spent tax dollars to build the mall, their coffee cart would have gone out of business well before it had a chance to blossom into the business it is today.
GW Bush has done more to increase the support for libertarianism than any big spending Democrat every could have. I think it’s ill-conceived too, but that’s another story… reminds me an Ayn Rand plot “a novel wherein the industrialists of America go on strike and retreat to a mountainous hideaway, where they build an independent free economy with gold currency. The American economy and its society in general, deprived of its most productive members, slowly start to collapse.” Add Angelina Jolie (Atlas Shrugged). If she’s exploiting it, libertarianism must be popular!
129 oy, oh yeah!
So who is going to win NH tomorrow?!?!?
Place your bets ladies and gentlemen
wow silm we’re really keeping this thread going, huh?
I’m gonna go with Hillary and McCain….
Obama and McCain is my bet
‘nuther vote for Obama/McCain, that’ll be it for Giuliani, Thompson. But Huckabee, Romney and Ron Paul (who’ll do surprisingly well tomorrow) will stick around. Hillary third, and fading fast!
she’s gonna win tomorrow….
Ron Paul will kick it into high gear tomorrow, but not will be forgotten in a two weeks
Edwards will come in a miserable third but will last through SC (and maybe a little longer)
Surprise of the eve: Richardson will come close to beating Edwards, giving him a few weeks more to live AND a (remote but) possible Veep gig. If not, he’ll be offered Sec of State or UN or some shit he won’t take
Hillary’s up bitches!
silm where y’at?
I’m busy sending out party invites
Only 20% reporting but doesn’t look good for obama
Hold onto your seats
pay up!
I mean chix nuggets, of course.
39 to 37 w/ 53% reporting
The race is tightening
what the hell, hurry it up, i gotta go to bed already! Hillary won. It’s over. goodnite.
G-D Edwards is the spoiler.
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