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Fill in the blank. Which 3 musicians/performers would you give anything to see here? Caveat: preferably, they should not have been here for a few years. Maybe someone with connections could make this happen? If there is consensus, maybe we could pool some money and get a local club to have a small cvillain show?
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Motley Crue
Led Zepplin
Hanna Montana
Ok, I lied about the last one. In reality I’d like to see AC/DC, The Darkness, Aerosmith, Tenacious D, Velvet Revolver (and still the Crue and Zepplin). My out of left field choice is Norah Jones. I want her to have my babies.
The Polyphonic Spree, Old 97’s, Cake, The Mars Volta, Cold War Kids and Sebastian Bach (or Skid Row if they decide to get their heads out of their asses and get back together with Bas…)
The Pogues
Rush
Led Zeppelin
Alice In Chains
of bands i’d love to see reunite and come to c’ville:
Gn’R (original lineup, not Axl’s freakshow)
Soundgarden
STP
Tom Petty, Chris Rock, the Smurfs on Ice.
If anyone says Dane Cook, I’m gonna vomit.
ooh. good one. dropkick murphys would be fun too. i saw flogging molly last year at longwood. that was a great show.
dane cook.
Bob Mould and Mark Kozelek are the two that come to mind immediately.
Imogen Heap
Juanes
U2
In no particular order
ooh, Juanes! good one.
Bjork
Joanna Newsom
Brad Mehldau.
Give away our first born to whom?
Femi Kuti
Spearhead
Cake
Led Zeppelin
Ricki Lee Jones
not giving away the first born, but do pay well for babysitting… anyone?
Chartreuse, Bjork, good one she would be my forth, I saw her back in DK before she was famous, I was a big sugar cubes fan!!
Caroline, I just lost all respect for you.
Gwen, Bob Mould is doing a concert (as opposed to his regular DJ gig, up there) at the 9:30 in DC on Sat. March 15. It isn’t here, but it’s close!
Led Zepplin
Cake
Steve Earle
Def Leppard (Yes, I did just go there.)
The Cure
Cool Calm Pete
Cake
Foreign Exchange
A small Zeppelin cVillain show? Let me know…
The Who
Public Enemy
Zep
Excuse me while I jack this thread
Check out Stevie Jay’s ad in the Hook He excerpts multiple cVillain reviews of his show! Woo we’re famous
more dane cook, please.
two where were you last night….?
I want to see
CAKE and Modest Mouse
Sigur Ros
Chan Marshall (cat power)
mary J.
…and although he can’t join us, if this was dream of dreams
Nick Drake…..sigh
the cure, sigur ros, the pogues (so much agreement!)
i’d also love to see the dresden dolls. i saw amanda palmer solo in edinburgh and she was amazing.
I like the Cake suggestions. Hadn’t thought of them. And a Skid Row reunion would be totally F-ing sweet. “I wanna hear you say, I remember you!”
Who knew Cake was so popular round here? My friends always laugh when I tell them Cake was one of the best concerts i’ve ever seen - right up there w/ Prince.
Looked at their site and looks like no tour dates booked.
Here’s the link to their agents. Who’s gonna call? I’m in for some cash.
http://www.cakemusic.com/tour.html
Mark Knopfler
Ben Harper
Zamfir, King of the Pan Flute
In Charlottesville? U2, Blur, Muse. I’ve seen Muse twice, and they’re the best f*ing rockstars in the world.
more than Rammstein ? - those spunky Germans
they need to branch out of Europe.
Yes, more than Rammstein. Muse concert = 2 hour adrenaline rush.
But what’s the deal with Americans? They’re always traveling in Japan and Europe. They’re practically U2 overseas.
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds (or even Grinderman). Paul Westerberg. Rollins Band and Keith Morris doing the Black Flag set tour they did a few years ago. And yeah - Thor… Public Enemy. I second, third, and fourth that. I might very well give a testicle for that if I could hang out with Chuck D all day.
A handful of the folks listed above have played here in the last few years. Bob Mould was at Gravity Lounge not more than 2 months ago with Brendan Canty from Fugazi (unfortunately I missed it but I heard it was awesome - they did a bunch of Husker Du and Sugar songs too). Sebastian Bach played at Trax a handful of years ago and my friend Wendy got to hang out with him (re: babysit) all day!
ooooh yes! Cake would be fantastic…The Shins, Flaming Lips…would definitely go see some Zeppelin
Public Enemy’s last album (two years ago?) was amazing, they added a mc called Paris from California who is bad ass. I highly reccomend it.
Dang it. How did I forget The Shins? I’ll second that Rollins Band, too. Total crush on Henry. He’s the dreamiest.
Muse would be pretty intense as well…just started getting into their music.
Tom Petty
Pavement (reunion show in C-Ville at the Pavilion)
Phish (when they get back together and play JPJ)
bob mould played solo at gravity. brendan was nowhere to be seen. what they did do before bob’s set was show the entire new concert dvd filmed at the 9:30 club with his electric band that does feature brendan in it. i’ve got nothing against live dvds but honestly they’re usually not that engaging, ESPECIALLY if you’re waiting around for the guy on the dvd to play an actual set of music.
tommy d.: 2 Tom Pettys under my belt, good choice. It’s nice to go to a concert and know every single song. Contact high is kind of a given.
This could very well be a post of the shows I’ve kicked myself for missing in Cville. Pavement in 94 or 95 (?) at Trax, Jane’s Addiction in 89 at Mem Gym. *sigh* I was 12 and all my friends went and I am STILL upset I couldnt go. I’ve never seen Muse but I dig them as well - I might give my first few beers this weekend to see them… Dunno about my first born.
Led Zep
Led Zep
Led Zep
Phish circa 1992.
Pavement or Malkmus (Malkmus currently on tour–someone make it happen!)
Modest Mouse (would like to check them off the list)
The Hold Steady (My current favorite band)
yeah petty shows are almost too good.
nissan pavilion - 6/8/08 !
*And yes I realize pavement has been broken up for a decade.
a complete (Waters/Gilmour/Mason/Wright) Pink Floyd - I, however, have no first born (that I know of); which of you villainette’s wants to bear my seed to get the Floyd here?
Saw the Pogues live (with Mojo Nixon and The Violent Femmes at, believe it or not, Wolf Trap) - they sounded absolutely awful. Shane was sooooo drunk he could barely stand. Amazing show.
Oh my god you’d think there’s no Black people in this town with the pattern of answers you guys have given.
My white half says:
Celine Dion
Christina Aguilera
Barbra Joan Streisand
My black half says:
Usher
Kanye
Jay-Z
My mixed half says:
Alicia Keyes
Mariah Carey
Lenny Kravitz
My whole half says:
Tom Morello in any incarnation.
We asked for Mojo Nixon
They said “He don’t work here”
We said “If you don’t got Mojo Nixon
Then your store could use some fixin’”
I saw Shane with the Smoking Popes at the Black Cat in DC in 95. It was almost like something out of Spinal Tap as a couple of roadies lead him to the mike, he sways there for about 10 seconds as the crowd simultaneouly screams and holds their breath. He does the slurred “1,2,3,4″ and the band is off and running with “If I Should Fall From Grace with God”. Band was great, carried Shane through an unbelievable show. Would have been great to see him way back in the 80s when he was somewhat coherent.
malkmus played starr hill on his first solo album tour. november 13, 2001. great encore with him covering “sister ray”.
10 active acts that i haven’t seen/haven’t played charlottesville since i moved here:
bjork
lou reed
john cale
massive attack
van morrison
the black angels
boards of canada
the avalanches (these guys sure are taking their sweet time)
prince
nick cave
Lead singer of Smoking Popes, whichever Caterererer boy it was, one of my favorite singing voices.
Whoops, prompted by @46, it was really Shane and the Popes, non-smoking, not the Smoking Popes.
I have to second the Pogues, after seeing them at 930 in DC last spring. what a show. I’d pay my soon-to-be-born first male child for a Pogues/Flogging Molly/Dropkick Murphys bill. Also, a two-tone/third wave ska show with the Toasters, Pietasters, original Specials and the Selekter.
Dropkick Murphys! My Irish punky mood kicks in about two weeks before St. Paddy’s. Mid/late 90s bands I want to know what happened to: Mighty Mighty Bosstones, Barenaked Ladies, Third Eye Blind, Eve 6, and the Cardigans.
Check this out:
Billboard hot 100 1997
Billboard hot 100 1998
Sisqo. Billie Myers. Backstreet Boys. Chumbawamba.
10 active acts that i haven’t seen/haven’t played charlottesville since i moved here:
bjork
lou reed
john cale
massive attack
van morrison (seems to hate playing all but 4 or 5 american cities)
the black angels
boards of canada (fat chance i know)
the avalanches (hopefully still active)
prince
nick cave
Public Enemy came to Trax in the early ’90s. Good show, except for that bottle fight. Saw some others on this list around that time, too (pavement, femmes, pietasters, etc.).
For the cvillains that were around back then (and earlier), it would be fun to hear about favorite old-school Trax shows (sans DMB gossip, of course)…
dear cvillain: please stop eating my comments. thank you.
flogging molly. pearl jam. daft punk (preferably at my house).
maybe they are spam comments. I will checl
Spoon.
DJ Shadow (amazing)
DJ Z-Trip (and then you would hear all the bands up above and then some, all at once!)
Peter Gabriel
So when lilith mentioned Muse earlier, we had Muse playing in our office. When oy mentioned Pink Floyd, they were playing. How weird is that?
I saw BNL in DC back in 00. It was the night of the Canadian elections, and were still didn’t have an official president yet. Made for a pretty funny show. They were on VH1 the other day for Best 100 songs of the 90’s. They are still together and playing concerts, although their heyday is definitely over.
Cake . . . Muse . . . Sigur Ros . . . Smoking Popes? I suddenly feel very old.
U2, led zeppelin, jimmy buffett
that’s funny smiley, cuz I was about to say “all those bands are so old!”
I’ll second Yo on Shadow. I’m a little disappointed the Hard Sell’s not coming to town. Satellite seems like an ideal venue.
@51: Lilith, the Bosstones just got back together to do their Xmas Throwdown at the Middle East in Boston. There were rumors of a reunion album. Joe Giddleman (the bass fiddleman) was in a cool emo/post-punk group called Avoid One Thing for a little while, two albums, couple of tours.
Z-Trip
Unkle
Led Zeppelin - Whom I actually won an access code to buy tickets for their London show but sold it on Ebay for $3000. I know I know I am going to hell for doing it but I couldn’t afford the airfare and lodging at the time.
Rage Against The Machine - Saw them this summer in NYC but would love to see them a million more times.
New Kids On The Block - They just reunited fools!!!
@63
I went to the Hard Sell @ Sonar in Baltimore. It was amazing! I would have loved for it to have come to town but for the amount of equipment they had and what they were doing Satellite would have actually been too small for it.
STP, also reuniting for a tour. Lou Reed awesome, needs the right venue. Would recommend Pavilion over Paramount.
“Radiohead” is a trite answer, so…
Tool
Eminem
Air
Marilyn Manson, if only to piss off the sort of idiots who also protest at Planned Parenthood
Mark Knopfler, Bjork and Massive Attack are awesome suggestions that I’d never have remembered on my own. The last one also makes me want to plead for Morcheeba.
shadow and cut chemist were talking smack on the baltimore crowd at the hard sell in dc. apparently you only saw half of show they had planned, xsv. i couldn’t believe they had put together 100 minutes of dj antics.
Thirding the Muse recommendation. Their Knights of Cydonia video is a thing of beauty. And their performance on Live From Abbey Road was outstanding.
Modest Mouse, too.
And, were it possible, Mitch Hedberg (PBUH).
I’m kinda curious what kind of acts the Jefferson will bring when it opens. My hope is that bands the size of Wilco, or Go! Team would have a home here too. Plus, who would have objected to a higher capacity for recently sold out acts such as Sharon Brown or Mutemath? (yeah, I’m angry I missed both.)
ThatGrrl, I really appreciate the heads up re: Bob. I (obviously) didn’t know he’d played here so recently, and would totally be willing to make the jaunt to DC to see him, especially at 9:30.
Baconfat: It doesn’t surprise me they were talking smack seeing as how the crowd in B-More was dead as hell. A bunch of hipsters trying to be cool and act like they knew what was going on. I was right on the rail the entire night bobbing and screaming. At one point during the night I was actually naming off tracks they were playing and Cut Chemist looked up at me and gave me the reassuring nod of - OK this guy knows what’s up. Kid Koala opening for them was amazing as well. I had the opportunity to open for him when he played Satellite last year but there were some communications issues so it never happened. I feel bad for Shadow and Cut Chemist in a way. Two legends having to play for such a wack crowd who seemed like they weren’t appreciative of something that obviously took months if not years to put together and came out so spectacular and seamless. Kind of sucked in that aspect. All in all though it was a great show for the ones who truly appreciated it.
XSV
hey dave @ 39/41 - the hold steady played in richmond a couple of months ago (november 19). great show. you can even find a download of the show on bt.etree.org
Oh, and in terms of indie rock hipness that Satellite might actually go for, I’d flip for the National
Probably acts like these ones and these ones.
rise against
Oops. Second linky no worky. Here you go.
mr. brady: you’re so angry that you missed sharon jones that you forgot her last name? and are you really surprised it sold out? she packed the room the last time she was here, and it’s not like her profile has gotten any lower in light of amy winehouse’s recent rise to tabloid fodderdom.
How about Chemical Brothers? How are they live?
b-m-w, Radiohead is not a trite answer. No way.
Welcome to the party to b-m-w, lolo, anno domini, Greg Brady, and aussiebound if I haven’t welcomed you yet. Please remove your shoes at the door and help yourself to Jell-O shots. The Guitar Hero championship is in the den. Don’t mind the dog if he goes for your leg. I think that’s everything.
Might be right. I heard a rumor that part of the reason Starr Hill tanked was that ATO and Red Light acts kept getting paid ludicrous amounts to play there on, say, a Tuesday night to a crowd of, say, seven people (including staff).
I would hope the Jeff’s business model will differ.
XSV or Bacon,
Do you have the Hard Sell cd? Thoughts?
Being meaning to get, just keep letting it slip.
Pretty Boy Floyd
Andrew Ridgeley
Simply Red
Jani Lane
Rockwell
Did Blue Merle really deserve to play to more to seven people? Few things go worse with boring, derivative music than a REALLY bad band name.
Bacon,
So sorry I offended you. In my effort to get the point of my post fired off correctly while my boss wasn’t looking I slipped. I’ll make sure I get Shannon’s name right next time.
You did prove my point however. The market was there for her to play a larger room.
Ummmm…
Ace of Base opening for No Doubt, on friday. Then saturday has Live, third eye blind, and the counting crows. Then after the saturday night show, DJ Tiesto spins from 2am to son up.
For that, i would surrender the would be first spawn of my seed.
mclusky, if they weren’t broken up. f*ck that band.
spoon is a nice idear, too.
talking heads. i’d do backflips all the way home.
b-m-w: radiohead is, hands down, my favorite concert of all time. so definitely not a trite answer!
bukbuk: except for tiesto, i’ve seen all of your faves. very nice lineup, i have to say
can i specify time periods? i’d like to see the police *before* they broke up. if not, then the cure, ani difranco and the shins.
and i accidentily spelled sun wrong in a delicious pun about giving away my first born. i’m on fire today.
Damn. Good call on McLusky.
Also, Interpol. Broken Social Scene.
I saw them at a conference party many years ago, but there was an open bar so my answer is “I don’t remember”.
Would love to see Radiohead, or Gomez again. Had the Roots play at a party a couple of years ago - one of the best concerts I’ve ever seen. Incredible musicians.
For all the Pogues fans, they’re playing DC and B’more 3/9-10 and 3/12 respectively. I have never seen the 930 club as packed as it was for their comeback tour and would highly recommend making the trip if you can, if only to see Shane before he completely drowns in booze. which he nearly does nightly.
I heard a rumor that part of the reason Starr Hill tanked was that ATO and Red Light acts kept getting paid ludicrous amounts to play there on, say, a Tuesday night to a crowd of, say, seven people (including staff).I believe Starr Hill closed because the restaurant made no money and after moving the brewery operation to Crozet, they couldn’t fill in the revenue blank. The music venue did just fine.
It’s all Coran’s money anyway…if he wants to set things up so his own acts are paid handsomely to play his venues, so be it. Maybe you all are going to different shows that I do because I can only remember one show that was thinly attended (Zappa’s band). I’m so grateful he seems to like the same music as I do. I’m pretty confident that The Jeff will have some great shows whenever it opens.
@EppieDan-
The CD is pretty, er, um, cerebral. Definitely nowhere near as funky as Brainfreeze or even Product Placement, but it is an interesting document of turntable layering; some really obscure tracks (along with some well-known ones) get thrown into the mix. They also attempt to build a few De La Soul tracks from the ground up using samples, which is pretty neat. I have to admit that seeing the set performed live with video accompaniment went a long way towards making the CD make more sense. Also, the CD has some great if impractical packaging.
oh, and how could i forget the yeah yeah yeahs? or DAFT PUNK?
Nobody.
I can’t imagine paying over $100 for a concert ticket, and that’s pushing it. Feel the same way about sporting events.
Yeah yeah YEAH to both, baconfat. Sorry to be cheesy. Shutting down early.
@94. Thanks Bacon.
@93. Great idea Upstart. Would love to see Zappa Plays Zappa come to town.
@80
If he does, its best just to let him finish up.
I would add dj Krush to the list of dj’s being bandied about. Weird beat driven jazzy ethereal … mindblowing crazy japanese dude.
And dj cam’s new album “lost and found” just came out. Can’t wait to hear that one, his stuff is usually pretty tight.
Oh, I love them too — I just meant that at this point it’s pretty it’s trite to say as much. Every fan wants to see them, ever band wants to be them. They’re a foregone conclusion for this question.
83: simply red! YES!
90: i feel like you have to be clutching eggnog when you say that. dear lord, how i love that movie…
Baconfat, I think you and I could be friends.
I was in fact at both the Malkmus show and Hold Steady joints you mention.
Great times.
REM
bruuuuuce
and pearl jam.
and pavement.
and andrew wk.
I’d love to see My Morning Jacket come back and play the PAV this time instead of Starr Hill. Makes sense what with ATO and all…
Phish circa fall ‘97 cow funk would be great, if time was no option.
But if there was really no option on time or being alive or dead I would have to say John Hartford would be hard to beat. I know he played The Prism way back when, I would really have loved to have seen that…
Of course if time/space/death don’t matter, then The Beatles would be #1 for me.
Oh, I’m talking Zappa’s band, Project Object. During the setbreak at that show, I went downstairs for a drink because I knew the bartender down there and he told me that I was the only female in the building. I went back upstairs and looked around at the thin crowd and realized he was right. It was a very strange night for many reasons.
Wow. I went to that Malkmus show all on my own. Sounds like I could have been hanging with a lot of folks who are still in town!
Muse.
Pulp.
Damien Rice.
or Nick Cave.
Funny, what makes you delurk.
Tequila makes me delurk, but only if I have had too much.
OASIS!
Far and away one of the best live shows…maybe they’ll do JPJ when the new album comes out….*fingers crossed*!
Three?! Three?! I can’t do it. I love music even more than sports. How about I triple it:
)
The Early November, Sia, Barcelona, The Divorce, Straylight Run, Fair, Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Crosstide, Deccatree, Chevelle (mostly cause I want to jump them, mmmmmmmmmmm…and of course their fine musical talent!
johnny cash.
silly parlie
johnny cash too.
None of you have a first born. Peace
huh?
Yeah, I’m with caroline, huh?
@107 - Yeah, I figured you meant Object, but that got me thinking to the current ZPZ tour, some of which probably features Project Object folk I guess. Not to sure about the lineup. Check this out though:
http://www.zappa.com/zpz/videos/zpz_trailer.html
@106 - Cow funk would be sweet, indeed. If you’re a big fan, go back and look at Summer 98 and Fall 95. Rediscovering, and it’s better with time.
Um yes. And I am, at this point, looking for someone to give him to. I dont care if jeebus is playing the pavillion…God help me.
Yo Don’t give him to anyone. You’re much better than that
Parlie, I can’t believe you said that
Nick Cave!
And Radiohead
and Sean and the Bitch-Ass Nipple-Fuckers
and the Pogues
and Johnny Cash can suck my ass
The Solid Gold Dancers.
Your favorite band sucks.
/that is all.
yo, thats an awesome band name
YOUR FAVORITE BAND SUCKS
playing at the Satellite broom
don’t give away the first born - give away the younger ones; the older kids will be out of your hair sooner…
wow… showing up WAY late to my own party…
1. the mountain goats
2. the album leaf
3. the new amsterdams
4. the shins
5. the postal service (if only they toured)
indie yes yes yes to 2,4,&5!
don’t know about 1 and 3 will check out, thanx!
c-
check out sunset tree by the mountain goats
worse for the wear by the new amsterdams
i think both albums are fantastic. im sure you can find plenty on skreemr.com
crap…
6. belle & sebastian
7. guster
8. the decemberists
… clearly i dont place a high value on my future children
I’ll see indie’s 5&6, greg brady’s Broken Social Scene, and baconfat’s Daft Punk and raise you an LCD Soundsystem and Beck. I haven’t lived here long enough to know what has come around, so perhaps someone can tell me I’ve already missed the great shows.
Belle & Sebastian was good at 930 club a couple years ago, but I wanted to DANCE! and all the fans were doggedly immobile. Jerks.
am i the only one at a loss for words?
Johnny’s quiet these days, too.
</kidding!>
parlie: theres a ring of fire joke in there somewhere, I’m sure.
Stanley: yeah, shoegazers can be a bummer when danceable music is around. Next time that happens, I’ll find you and we’ll change the whole crowd dynamic. Step into my office, baby!
@indie dork - the postal service toured at least once - i saw them at the black cat. may 2003. definitely way more entertaining than the last few death cab shows i saw (meaning those shows i saw after they played starr hill). i couldn’t believe how popular they were in dc - it was tough getting people in the ville to take the record seriously for the first few months after it came out. did you know give up has sold over 900,000 copies?
the mountain goats played tokyo rose in 1996. i was at that one, too. i think i have a recording on tape around here somewhere…
also, there might be some very good decemberists-related news in the near future for you.
@129/135: Postal Service, how would a concert work? I mean, there are three* types of concerts in my mind:
1. Rockstars being rockstars. They do lines then play guitars then do lines again.
2. Music for the sake of music. They’re such genius musicians that we’re not offended when they call us “Charlotte.” Is it genii?
3. Are you on what I’m on? It’s a scene. Showcase for a kinda famous DJ who’s self-conscious about his kinda-famiosity. Understated and overstated meet here.
* 4. See: Justin Timberlake. We call that a waste of money, not a concert.
what about awesome band knows their audience, audience reciprocates with love and admiration, everyone dances? I’ve been to that show many times, does it not happen in Charlotte(sville)?
Re: postal service: I wondered how a Hot Chip concert would be and turns out it’s just like you’d think: Five very awkward brits standing behind an array of keyboards and synthesizers. And I thought that would put up a barrier between them and us, but it totally didn’t. Asheville ROCKED OUT that night.
Ghostland Observatory. I’d bet my left fibula that my heart beat to the beat of their turntable. Y, you out there? You’ve seen them twice you honey bunches of oats.
not sure what you’re getting at, lilith - the postal service live was basically ben on guitar (mostly) and keyboards, jimmy t on keyboards, and the irrepressible jenny lewis on bass and keyboards. they made a separate video for each song, which helped a bit. when they weren’t playing their instruments, ben and jenny danced. a lot. it was so cute. there was also a drum kit on stage that ben bashed on a few times. i don’t know if this falls into your definition of a concert, but it worked for me. they seemed to be enjoying themselves mightily and i was enthralled as well. and who are you talking about in #3? dj’s are huge egoists. and hey, i can get you a free ghostland obsvervatory live in austin dvd if you want it.
i love these kind of posts. they give you dirty little insights into everyone’s lives.
For example, Thor works for the NSA, apparently.
Me neither, baconfat, me neither. I’m listening to Thievery Corporation on my computer right now, and I’ve seen them twice in concert. They fit none of those descriptions. Their sound is inherently whimsical but their stage presence is really intense– like Arcade Fire, like Gnarls Barkley. It’s just a concert. But hot holy hell I have to move my body right NOW. That’s my favorite kind of concert.
It’s amazing the difference between the bands you want to hear and the bands you want to see. I love hearing the Cure and the Decemberists and Neutral Milk Hotel and Elliot Smith and Red House Painters/Sun Kil Moon and many others, but performances are so based on charisma and nostalgia and who you’re with and what age you are and who you kiss during or after the show that many bands I’d like to see are not at all reflective of my music taste or who is truly great musically but instead reflect a particular emotional latitude and longitude of my life.
Neutral Milk Hotel
WANT.
Has anyone heard of a C-ville connection to this band? I’ve heard tell of some local working with them/him, but I’ve been unable to confirm the tale.
If there is a connection and it’s been forgotten, I’ll chalk that up to yet another instance of Charlottesville shunning it’s indie folklore in favor of recounting jam band tales and Dave sightings.
i’m so grumpy today.
@144, I saw a James Taylor show once because my friend swore he was an amazing performer, blah, blah. It was in the early 1990’s. It was better than I expected, but Tom Petty at JMU in the early 1980’s was better. Anyway the funny thing was at J. Taylor I ran into this total hippie dude on the pay phone, and he was going on about, “I know, it’s James Taylor, but he does this awesome show!” This guy looked straight out of a Dead show.
137: it very much happened at the girl talk and chk chk chk (!!!) shows at the satellite ballroom, and explosions in the sky at starr hill last spring. it’s rare, but it can (and does) happen.
@ baconfat 135-
im just curious how a postal service show would work. i think ‘give up’ is one of the better albums from the last few years and im curious how it would translate to a live performance. hopefully they can be convinced to do a reunion tour or something. im actually kinda surprised it sold only 900,000 copies. id be willing to bet that there are 10x as many copies out there, but burned (like mine). i think owning it was a prerequisite for anyone who wanted to graduate from college between ‘04 and ‘06.
colin meloy solo at satellite ballroom, i hear. never heard him solo… any good?
@142 Stanley: We correlate your musical tastes to propensity to commit acts of crime. I can’t say much more.
the White Stripes are awesome live
PretentiousCvillian: you rock
Fact: no one really likes Broken Social Scene, we just like people who say they do.
the problem with venues in this town is they consistently ignore the non-white and non-rock audiences. There’s money to be made in country, pop and hip-hop. Thank Goddess for JPJ. Thank Goddess for student discounts.
lilith: 5. Concerts that are mindblowing feats of theatricality. [See Celine Dion.]
caroline: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc-uhbAhnfI
Solid Gold!
Filling up my life with music!
Solid Gold!
Putting rhythm in my soul!
There’s a song that’s unreelin’
That fits the way that I’m feelin’
My head keeps spinnin’ to music
Spinnin’ to Gold!
Uva, is there a chance that that has anything to do with a disproportionate number of local rock bands as opposed to country or hip-hop/r&b? That’s not a counter-argument at all, it’s a serious question.
Oh yeah, we have bluegrass too.
thanks grape you just made my day, I loves those solid gold dancah’s….oh sh*t….is this comment too cliquesy?
@UVaLaGrape - I have to respectfully disagree with you on the count that non-white and non-rock audiences are being ignored. For a town of Charlottesville’s size, we get a LOT of shows, and more than a few that have crossover appeal. And you have to remember we’re close enough to a couple of major urban areas (RVA, WDC) that it’s not cost-effective for a lot of touring acts to come here anyway. Add in the fact that most popular hip-hop/r&b/soul acts don’t really tour that much to begin with, and you’re left competing for a pieces of a pretty small pie. Look at any major touring urban artist - they are not generally playing towns with 40,000 people in them. If anything, I think the University has been slack in getting pop acts to come - most bands will play at a college in a heartbeat since they can charge outrageous guarantees (the students are picking up the tab anyway). If there’s one problem with concerts here, it’s that they’re generally overpriced, which might be a factor in keeping certain acts away.
Neutral Milk hotel has played Tokoyo Rose way back when….
I hear the Acorn Sisters are playing soon with Sarah White
If Justin Timberlake and Pink can stop here, anyone on earth can stop here. that’s no exagerration, don’t you think? JT is our generation’s Michael Jackson. The current pince of pop. Number one of the number one musical acts in terms of popularity.
So that means that’s all that’s needed is the asking and the cash. And those 2 things are controlled by the venue owners and programmers. Take it from a (half) Black Charlottesvillian: the white business class of Charlottesville neither understands nor wants the business of Black Charlottesville/central Va. We are 20% of Charlottesville and Albemarle, but the average White small business owner just doesn’t get how to tap into that market and doesn’t care. So…the chains get our money because they’re better at marketing to us than some retired lawyer who opens a restaurant in the middle of a Black neighborhood yet somehow gets no Black customers.
This town is so segregated that white adults who move here don’t even notice it. Kids do, that’s for sure. But…that’s a whole other story.
And if anyone throws Sharon Jones and the Dap-Kings at me I’m gonna hurl. The average working-in-a-bank shopping-at-Giant black woman in Charlottesville ain’t listening to Sharon Jones and Amy Winehouse. She’s listening to Beyonce and Chris Brown. Why isn’t anyone bringing Dru Hill or Bryan McKnight to town? We need more DL Hughley and Temptations concerts. What about Shai–they ain’t doin’ nothin else right now?
The Ballroom has brought Chuck Brown, LaGrape. And while I think you’ve got your finger on something interesting and important about the way race operates in Central Virginia, it makes you sound flippant and ridiculous when you imply that Sharon Jones isn’t black enough or somesuch nonsense.
It ain’t about Sharon Jones. I have no doubt that she is a strong and righteous sister who paid her dues to gain the current blurb of mainstream popularity she’s receiving.
But she’s receiving that popularity from white hipsters, not the black community. It’s not about Sharon. She is an artist who is free to do what she wants. It’s about the local venue owners and programmers who don’t get the simplest things about appealling to the black community. Black people in this town listen to gospel, R&B and Hiphop. That is a generalization you can put cold hard cash down on. But then you got venue managers programming blues and jazz and thinking they’ve done their part to serve the black community.
Jill Scott’s on tour. Get her.
Patti Labelle’s on a gospel tour. Get her.
Boyz 2 Men are on tour. Get ‘em!
@UVaLaGrape - I think you have some valid arguments about promoters/programmers here, but you have to face the reality about how urban artists tour - they don’t typically play smaller markets. I looked at every stop on Jill Scott’s tour - there are nothing but giant 100,000+ cities on there. And where’s she going to play in town? The Paramount is probably way too small (and I’m sure with her guarantee the tickets would have to be upwards of $100 for anyone to make money), and JPJ is probably way too big (nobody wants to play to 3,000 people in a 18,000+ room). The main thing is that Cville doesn’t have a good room that fits between 1,500 and 15,000 people (UHall doesn’t count). Other factors to consider include high insurance costs for hip-hop acts and the fact that most gospel shows are probably going to have to be non-alcoholic (a sure-fire way NOT to make money).
Also, Boyz II Men are touring in Europe right now (no US dates scheduled) and Patti LaBelle only has one show scheduled for the next 6 months. Chris Brown is playing Hawaii and Denmark.
As far as your JT argument goes - JPJ can only book acts that it knows will sell a boatload of tickets. Justin has a proven track record dating back several years, and he is the biggest guy out there right now - he could sell out in just about any town, anywhere. Someone newer, even with a chart-topping album, might have a harder time doing so, and JPJ can’t afford to take chances in a small market like this. Last year was very bad for the touring industry, so look for conservatism to continue in the future.
Bjork!!
Muse
The Roots
Beruit
Harmar Superstar. For real- that would rock my world.
And Shakira.
If she agrees not to do anything from her latest english album.
I wonder what touring artists think of Charlottesville when they come through - or if they even care. I guess the difference is some bands book themselves based on where they like and where the reception is good. Other artists have labels that book them only in commercially viable joints - i.e. big cities, big radio stations, etc. And that makes sense too. Maybe baconfat knows, since he seems to know everything.
and looking over Charlottesville music calendars from yesteryear (i.e. the good old days):
Friday March 26, 1999
In town tonight: ……. at Tokyo Rose, Dismemberment Plan, Cherry 2000, Sean-Na-Na; ……
or:
April 17, 1997
In town tonight: at Trax, Edwin McCain Band and Jimmie’s Chicken Shack; at Tokyo Rose, Elliott Smith and Rick Alverson; ……
(My buddy Jeff went to the Elliott Smith show and said there were 6 people there)
Silmo. Next time will be opening for Jim Waive at the CD release party. Feb 15th @ satellite. Hope to see you there. Ya got any cowboy boots? See, we have country music in C’ville.
Cake people: they came through the area in early December and played in Richmond and DC. The Richmond show was at Toad’s Place and was pretty awesome…although John McCrea slurred through a few lyrics, which was weird. But they would be a KILLER CVille show. My #1 for sure.
Tuffy: I had tix to that Cake show in Richmond. Was too sick to go.
cbob, I was at that Elliot Smith show, it was packed, if you are talking about the one where Grandaddy opened for him.
Tuffy, seeing how John McCrea spent time here producing the Hackensaw Boys, maybe he will come back.
With Toad’s Place open in Richmond and the new National Theater opening there in two weeks, we will probably see acts that used to stop here on their way from DC to Raleigh/Asheville (or the other way around) stopping over there instead. Scratch that, looking at the National’s calendar, they already booked artists that used to play Charlottesville once or twice per year.
Kind of a bummer, but those venues are gorgeous…and smoke free.
Am I the only person in c-Ville who wants to see some screamo?
yes. yes you are.
shut it bluegrass boy
Seriously?
Huun Huur Tu.
b.c.
acorns all the way.
manu chao.
syd barret.
modmo…(yes)
wingnut .(the band) [http://www.myspace.com/wingnutjazz]
Yoyo Ma.
Larry Keel.
Hank Roberts.
NMH!(cited)
Roots.
“a nickle bag of funk” ZA’… Digable Planets.
Hissy ‘Yo
Fuck (the “band”) but only live when they play mid-set with with “drunk” and “Orgasm” (’delph)
La aQuadrianal dead squad? *pronounciation* “e” quandrap’u'lation.
gamelan.
African musicians who were Magicians.
Pentangle!
Anything Johnny Gilmore
Dead Milkmen.
Fugaz’ii
Lipps “funkytown”
Ani.
“big lizzard in my back yard” (eh?)
James brown;
Oh and, I hate the moderation song.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vtPk5IUbdH0
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electric_Avenue_(song)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4701597089921333184&q=jack+and+diane&total=588&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=0
Madonna (slightly just becuse)
Cyndi Lauper.
The Instruments.
Anything Kim Deal!!!!!!!
Thank you Nick Drake.
Pixies )oh yeah(
Pinko Communoids (C’os the’re HOT!!!
Jim waive ( only at the bluemoon diner with japanese progggggramming,) Or stompin’ maya (no “what” no more)
Erica Olsen (http://www.myspace.com/ericaolsen )
The James Gang.
Willy (he’ll come soon)
Gilda Radnor. (anything)
Joe Walsh.
Hurdy Gurdy ’s
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLlIbMA6VFA)
Manfred Mann’s Earth Band (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quinn_the_Eskimo_(The_Mighty_Quinn)
Men at work (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNT7uZf7lew)
steely dan (hey 19)
(said) two headed boy.
H8UH
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Oh for Christ (whoops) sakes..I am never hip to be square enough to ever be on the “cutting edge” of whatever y’all are talking about. I started wearing leggings 4 years after it was “in”…there was that whole headband fiasco. Dayglo Bellbottoms…did it. Back when it was truly in fashion. Plus my mom sent me to this very odd SPCA Christian camp where we sang a lot of Puff the Magic Dragon and also a smattering of dogmatic Michael rowed the boat ashore Indoctrination by reformed hippies. Can I say that? Ya know what I can..two years of accidental celibacy..I think I get a pass. Turns out that makes you cynical and cranky. Who knew. I also got kicked in the shin by a horse that year. I believe I was 9. Should have been telling for the trajectory of my life.
Floyd…please
Zep
Petty
That’s it.
I’m always fashionably late to the party.
seevillain, cliquey, NJ, welcome to the party! Help yourself to Gatorade and Pop Tarts.
David Byrne is incredible live — saw him in NYC. tix would probably be $$$, but the Paramount should have him…
Ozomatli
Minus the Bear
Death Cab for Cutie (if they did an unplugged show)
Vinyl (otherwise)
Thank you baconfat for your insight. You seem to know what’s going on…are you one of the venue owners I complain about?
Clearly seevillain couldn’t pick just three either…it was a dumb suggestion (for three). I like your thinking seevillain.
some.dude: Ozomatli is great live. I saw ‘em years ago at a Warped Tour in DC. Sadly, the coolness of my claim is dulled by the fact that, as I entered RFK for the show, my mom said, “Hey, look for a band called Ozomatli. I heard about ‘em on NPR!” and that’s why I saw ‘em.
Still: very, very awesome show.
JPJ I consider more of a regional venue than a local one. Its competition is more Nissan Pavilion or Richmond Coliseum than Gravity Lounge. It pulls audience from at least a hundred-mile radius. So while Cville may not be a big city, neither are many of the regional arenas that are housed in towns mainstream America has never heard of (like Bristow or Vienna). I agree that we are a small city that’s not a suburb of a big one, but…we’ve proved that if everything is done right, our town’s big venues can sell out.
They’ve got Lynyrd Skynyrd coming in May. Lynyrd Funkin Skynyrd, dude. Their last hit was before I was born, and you’re gonna tell me they try to book acts that “it†knows will sell a boatload. There is no “it.†There is a group of locally-residing humans that make these programming decisions. If it’s purely about selling a boatload of tickets, there’s no way that Lynyrd Skynyrd was the top available act in May.
Jill Scott would pull just as many or more sales as Lynyrd Skynyrd. But JPJ for some reason feels like overserving the classic rock crowd and underserving the R&B crowd. Bring back OutKast.
I have to give it up to the Paramount, though. They were still in construction when I went to college, so I’m only just discovering them. But I feel like they do a good job of booking acts that appeal to grown black folks (thought not the kids), like Maya Angelou, DL Hughley and The Temptations. Looking at their schedule, I see they’ve had Cosby, Whoopi. They’re alright in my book!
Great article from The Hook about our glut of venues:
http://www.readthehook.com/stories/2007/10/25/Cover-Eoverload-E.rtf.aspx
Fun capacity facts:
Scott Stadium 60,000
JPJ 16,000
Pavilion 3500
MLK 1200
Paramount 1000
Old Cabell 850
Jefferson 800
PVCC 500
Regarding ticket prices: There’s nothing that can be done on a wide level. Prices are going up and that’s that. Professional venues look at every price schematic possible when deciding ticket prices. But the fact is that the market will bear $100 ticket prices. Concerts are for the upper middle class. Duh. Do Pink t-shirts really cost so much to make they must charge me $35? No. Concerts are all about the status of being able to say “I went to see _________. Did you?â€
But on a guerrilla level, there’s always ways into local shows. Let’s start a thread about how we’ve gotten into this or that concert free.
Veering back towards bands that might actually come, I’d love to see:
The Budos Band
Quantic / and or his Soul Orchestra
I think both sell out Satellite.
In February Boyz 2 Men are going to be in California, Missouri and Illinois. Patti Labelle is going to be in Chicago and Raleigh in March. Jill Scott is going to do 8 gigs in DC, Maryland, VA and North Carolina in the next few months. Sharon Jones is playing 300 to 3000 seat venues.
The specific artists don’t matter. What matters is that there’s no excuse for such a lack of bookings that appeal to black audiences in a town with such a bounty of venues.
hmmm.
tonight i say:
chemical brothers
green day
the band from jaba the hut’s club
?
honorable mention to led zeppelin, but i’d rather it NOT be at the JPJ.
say, the bistro…or the tea bazaar. yeah, there.
cheers!
green day’s a fun show. i saw them at umiami’s basketball arena which is a little smaller than JPJ i think.
ooh bon jovi!
sea liver, you are adorable. A STAR WARS reference? HUG! Welcome to the party, help yourself to bean dip and Bud Select, and be sure to get a good seat in front of the TV and call fives every time you get up or else.
Lilith, please take this with the love thats intended, but you are kind of the walmart greeter of cvillain!
Being white trash once removed, I dearly appreciate it.
/raised on opaque jello molds and lots of mayo.
Ha! Except I give out Mr. Yuck stickers.
Once lilith, adorned in a blue smock
welcomed new villains in a way that did rock,
offering cheese whiz and bugles
and schlitz (cause she’s frugal).
Man, mallwart can just suck our c*ck
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