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The students ripped out a 120 pound statue in Blacksburg and were charged with felony destruction of property. The judge reduced the trail to a misdemeanor and 200 hours of community service. This means they don’t have to go to jail.
Suggestion: Destroy more VT property. Why? Eternal fame > 200 hours of community service.
Note: Not sure if this is the actual statue or not.
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Is rush over yet? Is this when the stupid chores and exercise regimes and dares start?
I’m almost positive thats not the statue….its probably one of the smaller fiberglass statues, back a while ago they started placing these hokie birds outside all around blacksburg and they would be painted different colors by various people and whatnot. It seemed like a good idea but they looked kinda dumb and a lot of people didn’t like them. I think there have been several instances of people vandalizing them/ripping them up…They shouldn’t have to go to jail for that…I think they should have to pay for it though, because I’m pretty sure it was part of some kind of fund raising project
Lilith, I heard at rekop last night that UVA rush is indeed over. So it must be true. Could someone please send a pledge around to do my laundry?
I need a pledge to do many things none of which are appropriate.
I need a pledge to bust the crud of my wood surfaces.
That is definitely not the same statue that was stolen. I expect various pranks from both schools. Tech prankster have somehow been way more elusive in the past. Remember the T burned in to the football field and the VT on the basket ball court? Speaking of basketball…. Gobble Gobble, biznitches.
as a UVA grad, i would almost prefer jailtime over spending 200 hours in blacksburg.
as a tech grad, we would prefer that too.
parlie hour?
no, it’s not parlie hour. it’s 11am on a munday, for crying out loud.
I’d have to second parlie on this one, as a Tech grad. Keep ‘em out of the ‘burg!
I agree with my fellow hokies………I see the “honor” system still ends at the county line.
I’m 99% sure rush is over based soley on the hundreds of male voices I heard echoing in unison on Saturday night. But if by “dares” you mean vandalizing cars and by “exercise” you mean taking off your underwear in the street, I think that’s timeless.
Rush is over. I know this for a fact.
As for the prank, it was funny. You can’t deny sending kids to jail for a little school rival prank would be a bit harsh. People at our high school painted chickens and let them loose in the hallways. The chickens died and the students paid with 25 hours of picking up gum from the parking lot. Not the most fun, but the prank was. They really meant no harm. Much like the UVA students I am sure. It isn’t like Tech won’t get back at UVA.
i’m all for inter-school rivalry pranking, and you’re right Sid, i’m sure there will be retribution (KHAAAAANNNN!!). unfortunately, two things have changed since the “good ol’ days” to move pranking from honored tradtion to criminal behavior:
1) the overly litigious nature of the majority of retards in this country
2) the increasingly criminal or destructive nature of pranks, possibly a result of lack of respect for tradition or decorum.
the latter is lamentable and probably speaks to a moral breakdown of some kind. the former is just stupid.
Did anyone ask a chicken about that?
A strict constructionist reading of the Honor Code means that these students should and will be kicked out of UVA. Funk the bullsnit. White UVA boys get away with this kinda shitaake all the time. so I say shut ‘em down. If black youth go to jail for stealing bread from Lucky Seven, these dudes need to go down.
Not to get all political… but its not about race, its about social class.
“Direct your anger at those that directly opress you, and not the scapegoats that they create.”
~crass
I can’t believe you just played a race card. If they didn’t steal bread from L7, they wouldn’t go to jail.
The way [some] Wahoos act, I think stealing the hokie bird should be considered a hate crime. (that’s a joke) It was a prank, in theory, it was a victimless crime, a crime none-the-less. They should be kicked out of school, not for what they did, but because they were stupid enough to get caught and lie about it.
Yo - I agree it is more often about class.
Grape - You too are right. Theft is an “executable” offense under the extreme and unfair honor code. I hope they are not brought before the honor board, not because what they did is a prank, but because the academic death penalty (expulsion) is cruel and excessive. In addition to the public shame and emotional damage, the financial cost can be very high. Let’s assume an offender is a fourth year. S/he has paid for four years of tuition room and board at (say) $25k a year. To earn a degree the student has to apply (under a dark cloud) tro another college. That college will limit the number of credits the student can transfer to no more than two years worth. So to earn a degere that student has to pay for two more years of school ($50k) and postpone her entry into the workforce by 2 years (at a cost of at least $60k). So for stealing a turkey the student is penalized to the tune of (at least) $100,000. Sound fair to you?
For the record I don’t think someone who steals a loaf of bread should go to prison either. The cost of incarceration coupled with the disabling effect conviction and incarceration has on a person’s earning (and living) potential is so beyond the cost of the crime as to be laughable
Silmo, you’re right. It isn’t fair. But we don’t ask these questions when the turkey is a frozen one shoplifted from Giant.
Everybody’s life is worth a lot, not just UVA students.
Hey, does anyone remember who it was that put the cow up on the Rotunda? I know it’s someone who’s like a CEO or something of some big corporation now, but all was forgiven after a significant contribution to UVa or something like that…
Agreeing with LaGrape.
grape = as you can see from 22, I don’t think non-students should be harshly/unjustly treated.
The cow may not have been stolen, and they may not have lied about it, or cheated with it /Silvia reference/. That is the key.
I knew somebody who stole a gigantic snowplow, as wide as a house, in the McDonalds parking lot, to impress his buds. Later, when they were running away, one gender did not flee as swiftly as the other and he was subsequently caught. He had his 4-year undergrad degree & one year of law school on the line. I think he came out OK. Alcohol was involved.
You guys are babies. They knew the consequences of thier actions before they committed the crime. These dudes drove 2 hours up the road, sawed the turkey down, put it in a truck and drove it 2 hours back to Charlottesville. It was preplanned destruction of property. If they didn’t stop to think about the trouble they could get in, then they need more education.
gobbler: agreed. be just because someone has a degree (or is on their way to one) doesn’t mean they actually know how to think. sad, really.
Speaking of honor code, someone returned my favorite jacket that I guess was just misplaced at oxo last saturday! I came home and it was hanging on my doorknob! Had to have been a villain. Scared the shit out of me when I opened the door (from the inside), as I thought I was being attacked by a mutant black labrador. Thanks much to whomever did this (I have my suspicions). Totally made my day.
/knows its a threadjack, just wanted to say thanks, will shut up now
Sorry for the scare. Someone accidentally took it home thinking it was theirs, and returned it when they figured out it was not. I was in the neighborhood, so dropped it off. Thanks to whoever brought it back!
remember when the “raphael” baby statue was stolen near the jefferson…this thread reminded me of that little curly haired guy…..where the hell did that thing end up?
How about this one, when the steel silhouette people on the mall were painted a la Picasso:
http://www.backglass.org/duncan/cville/downtown_mall_1980/art_1.jpg
is it a crime to make those terrible silhouettes actually look good? I wish they were still painted, they look fantastic!
That is awesome colfer! Is it yours? Could I use it as a flyer?
BRILLIANT!!!
Silmoooooooooooooo
That pic is in a collection of Duncan Brown’s photos, which were blogged by Waldo a coupla weeks ago:
http://www.cvillenews.com/2008/01/22/70s-downtown-photos/
colfer, I really enjoyed that; thank you!
Wont touch it then, but it is awesome. Plenty o’ weird ass shit on my ‘puter anyway.
Talk to Duncan, whoever he is. He sounds all right.
Hey C
Are we going to blog the Super Tuesday returns while all the cool kids are dancing at the cafeteria???
absoeffinglutely silm!
SS, you’re not gonna be dancing at the cafeteria?
will you at least text me to tell me who won?
Polls will close in most, if not all of the states in play before things get ccrraazzyy at the cafeteria. I don’t see why someone couldn’t do both…?
b/c I’m old and broke
What are ya’ll doin’ before the party?
… he said cliquely
*clique* I’m working late, then partying. I’m young and broke, but gonna try to make it happen anyway, at least for a brief visit. *clique*
truman sparks!!! vocals sucked but yet another insane show!
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Silmo and Caroline, can’t you guys email each other about what you’re doing at nights? Why does it have to be public? I, for one, am sick of it.
@33 & 34: Was anyone ever charged with those crimes?
Um, cuz they’re cVillains?
Quit yer bitchin’!
Or at least get the open thread happening, or take it to the forums.
Pretty much every thread over 10 posts is no longer worth reading as it’s gotten sidetracked.
/whine whine whine
Welcome to the internet. People talk about stuff to each other and other people read it.
Look, Shen. I like this site, clearly. I want to read people’s opinions on stuff, maybe argue with them about a topic, and find out what’s going on around town. There are other forums on your “internet” where two people can flirt with each other and make plans. I’d welcome you to grown-up world, but I’m not sure you’re there, yet.
shenanigans: welcome to the internet as well. people will (rightfully) complain about off-topic threads.
But complaining about off topic conversations in threads in the thread is off topic itself. Its a mobius strip! Even this post is off topic.
My brain. It Hurts.
What I see as the problem is this:
All the ‘off-topic posters’ defend it with the “just post and join the clique” logic. The thing is, I don’t *want* to join the clique. I’m reading the comments of a particular thread because I want to see commentary on the topic.
What drives me away from participating is the off-topic stuff. I’d comment a lot more (whether that is a good or bad thing is up for debate) if threads stayed on topic, as they’d be more interesting to me. That’s how you expand the social circle, not by having ‘in’ conversations between a half-dozen posters and wondering why no one else is joining in.
(shrug) my two cents. I’ll stick to just reading the headlines now until things get cleaned up around here.
Im sorry. It was just a joke.
/really have been trying to stay on topic lately.
It’s way more on topic recently people! If you have insightful commentary you will absolutely steer a thread into the right direction.
I disagree with Chad. The way to bring a topic back on topic is to bring it back on topic. No forum is perfect for everyone. Every forum has its annoyed participants.
The problem with buddy-buddy-ism in law enforcement is that it is always applied more to those who are already privileged than those who are not. These UVA students know exactly what they’re doing…and they think they will get away with it. They know they’ve got UVA-rich-white-football-frat-boy privilege going for them, so they know they will get away with it. Not only that, they’re proud. Do you think they took that drive saying “I’m so ashamed of what I’m about to do.” No. They screamed “ROAD TRIP!” at the top of their funkin’ lungs and whispered “Dude, this is so AWESOME!” to each other as they skulked around Blacksburg. They think they will be legends, not expellees.
These guys and their lawyer/professor/Senator/CEO dads will form a wagon circle made of money and connections and they will make sure these Jack-the-Lads won’t suffer. Then at night in the frat-house basements the older generation will buy kegs for the younger and slap ‘em on the back and tell em “Dude, you OWNED those Hokie bastards! Fuck a tragedy–we got them good! Did I ever tell you about that stripper we killed in 1983…?”
Honestly, stealing things from other schools is awesome, and if it’s not a classic piece of art or something irreplaceable, then get over it. I used to steal stuff all the time from rival schools and fraternities. Two times we found out what we’d taken was valueable or more important than we knew, so we gave it back. But i still have 4 gigantic school flags, and they’ve all been replaced with a very small portion of tuition. That same small portion that was taken from mine when people from those schools got us back.
Uva LaGrape, way to rejack the thread. Nice work.
Yeah.. I don’t know that it’s so ‘UVA-rich-white-football-frat-boy’ specific. I’d lump it more into the ‘generally drunk and obnoxious frat kid’ category.
At risk of yet again being told to go back to Athens, I remember a lot of school rivalry based pledge-missions. I think they tended to be more targeting of a rival fraternity or other group, but there was the occasional school specific heist. I recall one incident that was between UGA and UVA, and I think the repeated match ups in the Peach Bowl may have had something to do with it. Either way, I don’t think social/community status much enters the minds of these people when they are performing such a prank. I’d chalk it up more to booze, drugs, and having a vision of the future that only reaches about 5 years.
i stole a rug from randolph-macon once. i know, strange. here’s the story: friends of mine who were in a band were playing there. after the show they were packing up and started talking about the rug in the lobby and how much they wanted it for under the drum kit. for a good 15 minutes. talking about the rug. kicking the rug. not having the balls to just take the rug. i finally rolled up the rug myself and threw it in the back of one of their trucks.
stupid? probably.
did i laugh every time i saw them play after that and the rug was under the drum kit? most definitely.
Donk: go back to Athens. And take me with you.
mc:
I may caravan down that way for some music festivals this summer, or at the very least to catch some real SEC football near fall. I love that damn city.
trillain, do we know each other? I think that drummer still has that rug.
That rug held the room together did it not?
it’s quite possible. i don’t know how many bands had a stolen randolph-macon rug. that’s hilarious, i always wondered what happened to it…
truman sparks!!! vocals sucked but yet another insane show!
Yeah, sorry about the vocals. We should’ve worked on the mix a bit more. Glad you had fun, though.
@ 63: “i stole a rug from randolph-macon once”
that could be a much more amusing joke if r-m hadn’t recently gone coed…
I would agree with the theivary thing being more fratty and less social class related. Despite popular belief, not all frat boys are rich. However, all frat boys are drunk and most like to steal things or are supposed to steal things. But i was stealing things from rival high schools before i was ever a frat boy, and i grew up on welfare. Maybe it just depends on who catches you and how familiar they are with the drunken theft. I stole a road cone from JPA after a game, and walked it all the way to the corner. I got caught with it 50 feet from my house and the cop made me walk it all the way back to the arena, and walked side by side. Then he said whatever girl was waiting for you to get back has probably left, and i think that’s punishment enough.
Thats a pretty funny cop. Was she gone?
yeah, like the wind. I’ve been arrested 5 times all for drunken stupid things, and cops and judges are usually pretty understanding if you are remorseful and regretful. You might say outcomes in court are divided based on social status and class. I think it’s more about the attitude you bring before the court (which may be a result of your social class upbringing). You wear jeans and a wife beater to court, even if you are rich, you are disrespecting the court and won’t catch a break. You wear a suit and show a little class (even if you don’t have any) most times they will let you off the hook. These kids probably had a pretty decent future waiting for them, that a felony charge and jail time would have ruined, the judge sees that and as long as you look like you got your act together and are sorry they are pretty understanding. This obviously only applies to victimless crimes.
So the times that stripper got killed in ‘83…you’ll need a pretty nice suit, that’s all i’m saying.
Yeah. Men’s Wearhouse at the least. None of this pieced together Marshalls/TJ Maxx crap.
Without divulging too many details Mr. Bukbuk, my experience has been quite different…
The one time I was drunk enough to be convinced to take stuff off walls, I went to the building office the next day, completely apologetic, wearing as much plaid and white as is humanly possible in an outfit. “You were all over the security cameras, you know that?” Yeah, I’d figured. “We printed off stills from the video and posted them in the basement for the tenants to laugh at. You guys looked like idiots.” Okaaay. Are you going to charge me? “No. You’re being really cool about it.” And I didn’t even name names. Took full responsibility (even though they had the cameras). Six months of dirty looks from the sister of the girlfriend of the friend of my boyfriend– THAT was punishment. He told me the girls had tried to get us to break up! I think that was worse than the victim-less offense I’d started out with!
I stole a horse one time at Randolph-Macon and kept it in my room until they made me put it back. Horses are really hard to get into elevators b.t.w….
Trillian: I want my rug back, bitch!
Chad Day: You sound really boring.
Relevant link featuring the words “weiner,” “poopie,” and “Jesus.”
You’re welcome.
yes. thanks
Shen, I love you, but Chad Day is totally not boring.
Stanley, that link is probably the 6th greatest thing ever. If I ever get all lame and feeble when I’m old and give disdainful looks when people use the words “weiner poopie,” I want you to shoot me in the face. Hopefully there will be a well trained child from West Virginia to do the job.
I’m gonna go make a ham sandwich.
Stanley, I completely agree with Tim. “Wiener poopie” is a top 10. I’m going to use that in a sentence today.
stanley, you’ve made my morning. i would be laughing harder if it didn’t hurt my brain so much….
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