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[written by bukbukbegak]
Are tasers a big thing for Charlottesville police?
One little birdie, the resident tazing expert, explains that he witnessed law students getting tazed. Awesome?
He explains:
Not to declare myself a specialist or anything, but I think witnessing two separate tazings over the past two weeks warrants a title. I recently attended a black tie affair known as Barrister’s Ball, which could be better named Law School Prom, as UVA law students affectionately call it. Some take it so far as to arrive in limos. The Wahooptie suited us just fine, but that’s neither here nor there. It was at Fry’s Beach Club, which I had never been to, but am now a big fan of, and it was quite the event, filled with appetizers, open bar, and casino games to complete the “Night in Monte Carlo” theme. I feel as though I’m getting too far into the background of the event so I’ll get to the point. Imagine a clean cut law student, drunk off his ass and being cocky as hell. Wanna punch him? Don’t worry, someone will. He moves to his car followed, unbeknounced to him, by a police officer. As he opens the car, the police officer gets his attention and tells him he is going to search his car. Being a law student, he has quite a bit to say about the illegality of this officers plan, and began yelling at the cop quoting all sorts of things that he has learned over the course of his education here in c-ville. Then the cop sees a beer in his jacket pocket and reaches for it, the student slaps his had away and spits in the cops face. Awesome? Yeah. Stupid? Definitely. The cop takes out his stun gun and goes straight to the throat. Guy hits the ground but it was a stun gun and not a tazer so the cop pulls back and the kid goes after him for more. Now the cop and two security guards are pinning him down on the ground, but basically beating him. All this just because he wouldn’t get on the bus when he first left the party.
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Tagged as: , Charlottesville, Cops, Police, Taser, Weekends
oh p.s., i wrote this.
Oh, I’ll correct, sorry I didn’t know your username.
So what does a fried douchebag smell like?
Sweet story. I witnessed a mass tasing once that was also pretty sweet. A long time ago, in a bar not so far away (Biltmore), I was enjoying many a malted beverage. As last call arrived and they started herding people out of the bar, there was quite a commotion outside on the street. As is often the case, a couple of young gentlemen were engaging a male dominance ritual, commonly known as “fisticuffs.” Other members of the pack began to break up said fisticuffs, only to get in fisticuffs themselves. And then the people holding them back also got into fisticuffs. And so about 6-8 specimens were going at it, with a large crowd around them shouting and pushing as well. The Corner Cop, sensing a disturbance in the force, showed up to put an end to the ruckus. Seeing the large scale of the event, he called in some backup, and soon 6 cars with about 12 officers rolled up to subdue the crowd. Fists were flying, and before long Corner Cop caught one in the back of the head. Suddenly, the man who is in more 21st birthday pictures than anyone else on the planet snaps and becomes Chuck Liddell. His fellow officers break out the tasers and start zapping the assailant as well as one other unruly hooligan. Others just have their faces smashed into the pavement. And right up until they were being stuffed into the cruisers, they were still shouting and lunging at each other like they were hot shit. Idiots. Very entertaining, but total idiots.
This is pretty ironically awesome.
It sounds like tasers are completely worthless in trying to stop someone from attacking you. I’d recommend pepper spray for cops, but it gets everywhere. Hey, here’s an idea, why don’t people stop being assholes? Oh wait, that’s not happening.
Um… they can kill you.
…so no more blockquote tag? html at all?
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I’d recommend moving to italics (<i>text</i>), if that’s the case.
Ayup. Other html works. Go italics! Yes we can!
Good account of what happened. The only problem is that it’s not true. This is why newspapers have editors.
oh ya, what was the true story then, Dan?
problem isL i trust buk buk begak.
Oh and GUESS WHAT? We do have editors; they are the people who read and comment on this blog. You are welcome to write the “true” story and we will gladly publish and debate it.
As a personal friend of Bukbuk, I’m gonna vouche for his honesty. His stories may be long and frequent, but I have no reason to believe he’d make something up. If you know this, Dan (if that’s your real name), let us in on the real story, or maybe some details as to why you think his story isn’t true.
Yes, please, do go on dan. I’d love to hear what you thought of the event, and afterwards we can swap pictures of the event, and then everyone can vote on who’s better looking and more fashionable. So then I can be a better writer, and more classy. Did i mention the guy in full Marine dress atire watching and heckling? That also happened.
It’s not that BukBuk is lying/making it up, but the account isn’t 100% accurate, and several major details are a bit exaggerated/untrue/different, to say the least. Maybe he’s only writing what he think he saw, and therefore is saying it’s the truth, and maybe some of it was heard second-hand and was twisted before he got to it. Maybe some or all of the accounts are a bit foggy due to the various inebriation levels that night. Doesn’t matter.
The main point is that there may or may not be a case pending about this, and telling tales outside of school, so to speak, is in poor taste, and might actually end up hurting the party involved.
I know the usual diatribe about students (and about drunk students); it’s an easy dig to make, sure, but just because the person involved in the incident itself is a law student doesn’t mean they’re necessarily not a member of the Charlottesville community. In fact, I happen to know that this person has done quite a bit of good for people in this town that sometimes need it the most.
Maybe he was being a drunk asshole that night. Maybe the cops were being assholes too. I just find it funny that people were walking on eggshells when the story about Christian popped up, yet judgment/speculation/condemnation based on gossip in this case (see @3, @6 for example) is apparently fair game…
The difference, pop off, is that the person’s name has not been included in this particular article.
And i’ll give you that fact that i was drunk, but dude got tased and dude was flipping out about illegal search and seizure, and dude was a law student. Two people so far have said my story wasn’t 100% true. So like 95%-97% or are we talking low 90’s here? I mean I have been known to drink whiskey for 5 hours and get as low as an 85% on a test before. So edit it and make it more accurate, that’s the point of this site. Dan and Pop off’s comments both lead me to believe that the main parts of the story, i.e. cop, law student, taser, drunkeness, were all involved.
Countdown to law students “correcting” us.. 5..4..3..2..1….
we can call it cvillelawblog.com, and it will be exciting! kill myself.
we can call it cvillelawblog.com, and it will be exciting!
Maybe Bob Loblaw will moderate.
Law students suck. One time they held their prom at a “fancy” hotel, the Omni, and lost their five-figure deposit because all the softball players got shit-faced and acted like high school students… or is it frat boys. (Tough to tell since so many of those people act like high school students at a frat party.) Infractions included throughing furniture in the pool. Real classy, san diego
How does a furniture through with a pool?
Predictably, this has turned into “law students suck,” which is fine.
I think it’s just such an lazy step to take to generalize like that, especially given the number of law students who give their time and energy to Legal Aid, the Public Defender’s office, and the Charlottesville/Albemarle Commonwealth’s Attorney’s office, among many other area groups.
Do some law students suck? Sure. Do many of the drunk ones suck? Probably. I think in any group of 1100 people within a general age range of 21-30, you’re going to find more than a handful who do. In a former life, I was a bartender, and believe me, there was equal opportunity suckiness from law students and Charlottesville natives alike.
@17: My point was that I, personally, don’t feel like it’s good form to spread this sort of stuff around, especially when there might be a case pending. You might not think that the details matter, but I believe they do, but I don’t feel like it’s my place to “edit” you and “make it more accurate.”
You say “that’s the point of this site,” but given what I’ve read here, I don’t think that’s really true. Seems like most people are just giggling like frat boys or high school students about a drunk law student who they think got tased, and aren’t really interested in what’s accurate anyway.
@18: Thor: who is your “us” exactly? Between efforts to be inclusive to new posters and a certain clique-y slant to these discussions, I’m not quite sure. You know, you might just find out sometime that one of your “us” is one of “them” (gasp!).
pop, we really love you lawyers. the girls love you. the guys love you. i love you. i am a lawyer (just kidding)
But I know we give you guys a hard time. We aren’t exclusive or anything like you may think. We just want to give you a hard time. And now that you are on here, please join the fun. We don’t bite and would love to have more people.
Yes, we’re immature, but that’s cause we have more fun that way… after all… WELCOME TO THE INTERNET
Oh and people join all the time. It takes all of 3 or 4 posts for people to recognize you. Keep posting and I promise we will put you on the clique list .
Or you could petition for a writ of inclusion
I think we’re pretty good about preempting our posts with “I heard that,” “I’ve only been X many times, and,” and “In my opinion.”
Hating on law students is not the brightest thing to do, since they’re the future protectors of our civil liberties and civil rights, and they’re working with a very imperfect system rife with ambiguity and subjectivity. They’re smart. They’re ambitious. Most want to use these powers for the forces of good and not evil. Would I date a lawyer? Hello no, but I’ll drink with one.
This is an isolated case. That’s all I’ve got.
Actually maybe interpleader would be a good way to get involved, cVillain’s liberalized pleading rules allow for permissive joinder of parties.
definitely more law students reading this than you think! i also have a feeling that number grew when tj’s double play (a very popular law school blog) linked to cvillian for the tasing story earlier this week. of the law students i know of who read this, all like cVillain, a few post on cVillain, and a handful attend cVillain events. we’re not all drunks, but of those of us who are, the majority of us do try stop the rowdiness somewhere short of the level that will get ourselves tased. (In dual part due to needing to pass the moral fitness component of the bar, and just generally not wanting to be jerks.) i agree with pop off, sometimes things get out of hand, but that’s everybody, not just law school kids.
by no means was this ever a law school student sucks article. Please don’t turn this into a thread like that. It is a question of whether or not police have been using excessive force as of late. I think they are. I wrote my story the way i did because i found humor in the irony that it was a law student who was confronting a cop screaming about his rights. The fact that i was at this event means i enjoy hanging out with law school students and am very aware of all the great things they do for our society through internships and community service. I honestly think some of you should listen to popoff, because he has addressed this manner with some class.
But silmo is right about the omni thing. But that’s hilarious. Feb Club must go on so let’s just try to keep the aggressive boys in blue out of it. Any cops reading? ever beat someone up for fun?
Screw law students. It’s the Darden students I really hate.
I KEED I KEED. I joka with you.
Mostly.
I don’t think it’s appropriate to generalized that all law students suck. I think it’s UVA students in general.
gobbler punching bag anyone?
I for one think it’s perfectly fine to generalize when slandering. That said, let me state the obvious: Not all law students suck; I was talking only of UVa law students.
The majority of UVa law students are non-suckadelic, but part of the culture as embodied by the dominant (i.e. most visible) social group tends towards the boorish, uncurious, and narrow-minded. The school is a hot-bed of radical conservatism populated by students with precious little real-world experience (i.e. vast majority enter school within one year of graduating college) yet a good deal of money (most often parental), Nothing against inexperience or affluence, but when combined with power and influence (as it soon will be) it is a dangerous thing.
I have met several law student villains and they were great people. And I know some lawyers who are fine people, etc. **Platitudes and more stating of the obvious**
LILITH: “Hating on law students is not the brightest thing to do, since they’re the future protectors of our civil liberties and civil rights” Given the level of empathy (low), worldly-understanding (very low), and disdain for “rights” evinced by a significant portion of the student body, you’d do well to look elsewhere for the protection of your civil rights and liberties. (After all Scalia and Thomas are this schools patron Supremes and the Federalist Society its chorus)
CAVEAT: My assessment is based on empirical evidence collected a decade ago. So yes, if the culture has changed and the school is no longer the hot-bed of radical-conservatism that it once was or if it is no longer “all-about-softball” then I stand corrected
I wonder how much the price difference is between a really great taser, and a shitty walmart taser. I would like to have one, just in case, but I don’t just want some worthless weak ass taser. When I use it, I want whatever was at the other end to know its been tasered.
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The law school isn’t particularly or obviously conservative. I suppose it is more conservative than other top law schools, which are overwhelming liberal, but I don’t find that necessarily to be a bad thing. Honestly, I’m more uncomfortable with people suggesting that one’s politics somehow are connected with being rude, or taunting cops.
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