Maybe It’s A Big Lie

but its still a good rumor

and it could be true

and wouldn’t it be nice

A little birdie who recently moved to Fredericksburg reports:

Last night I was talking with some local restaurateurs, and found out that a local business owner, Chris Dunbar, has bought Starr Hill. It will be a restaurant and music hall. They already have a show booked (dark star orchestra) and should be opening by midsummer.

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36 Responses to “Maybe It’s A Big Lie”

  1. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:11 pmmc said:

    ooooh, that sounds lovely.

  2. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:14 pmThatGrrl said:

    The return of Starr Hill! I know that not everyone agrees, but I liked the place. Should fill the “no more Satellite Ballroom and your band just isn’t big enough to fill The Jefferson” niche.

  3. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:17 pmLu Sid said:

    The place is probably cool, but the beer is only so, so. I would be interested in seeing what can be done with the place.

  4. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:20 pmdoof said:

    Lu Sid, you new to town? You’ve never been in there?

  5. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:24 pmLu Sid said:

    Not too new, I just put off going there…so long that they closed. Then I figured, hey good thing I never got around to it, cause it closed and must not have been that great. That is my theory anyway.

  6. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:29 pmSilmo Syrup said:

    I didn’t care for the music hall. The lay out was no good, the bouncers were shit heads, and … something else but I can’t remember. Umm, what I did like about it is that you could hang out downstairs before and after (and during) the show. I put a premium on being able to sit and order a drink. Further, if I don’t like one of bands, I like the option of getting away from music.

    The restaurant also suffered from poor design.

    I hope they gut the place and start from scratch

    That said, it would be great to have someone pick up the slack once the ballroom closes.

    I am curious to know how these newbies intend to make that space work where even the all mighty Coran failed

  7. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:29 pmtrillian said:

    @2 - I agree! I really liked the shows upstairs. I hope the rumor is true and it’s reincarnation still involves live music.

  8. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:30 pmtrillian said:

    Crap, unnecessary apostrophe. I’m tired…

  9. 02 Apr 2008 at 1:37 pmshenanigans said:

    I saw some awesome shows there and had some fun times in the dressing room. Can’t wait to see what they do with the place.

  10. 02 Apr 2008 at 2:12 pmDarkstar said:

    Based on my Cvillain name, I think I deserve a free ticket when/if it opens.

  11. 02 Apr 2008 at 2:38 pmStanley said:

    I didn’t care for the music hall. The lay out was no good

    THIS. A music venue with a big gaping hole in the middle of the floor? I’m no acoustical engineer, but that’s a terrible idea. The room still had sweet spots, but the sound varied wildly as one moved about the space.

  12. 02 Apr 2008 at 2:50 pmSilmo Syrup said:

    THIS

  13. 02 Apr 2008 at 2:51 pmshenanigans said:

    @11: Architectural flaws aside, they had some awesome bands there.

  14. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:11 pmscoriole said:

    if there is anywork being done to the venue- some sort of elevator for the band’s very heavy equipment might be a godd idea…
    i helped load in galactic one year and could see the headline “crew falls to death through the stairway at venue, crushed and broken under soundboards”…

  15. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:15 pmryodome said:

    Rumor or not, they will have a similar sized space coming soon to compete with ;)

  16. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:24 pmBunnyCarlos said:

    The food was great when back when that space was the Blue Ridge Brewing Company.

  17. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:26 pmdoof said:

    Is the old brewing equiptment still in there, or did it all move to Crozet? Is it possible we may have another brewery in town when they open up?

  18. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:26 pmSilmo Syrup said:

    they will have a similar sized space coming soon to compete with

    Do tell! What new space? Who? Where? When?

  19. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:30 pmecho said:

    @17: Not really in town, but I heard a new brewery is opening up in Nelson County. Supposedly it will be between the Ski Barn and Wintergreen on 664.

  20. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:30 pmStanley said:

    Is the old brewing equiptment still in there, or did it all move to Crozet?

    Prior to Starr Hill’s closing, they moved it to Crozet, replacing it with a semi-private dining area and an artspace. So, barring the addition of new brewing equipment, Cville proper will continue to have one sub-par brewery rather than two sub-par breweries.

    /ducks, runs away

  21. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:30 pmSilmo Syrup said:

    Doof - The equipement is long gone. They converted the brew room into a rental/party room a while back.

    How about instead of another brew pub, someone opens a nice wholesome distillery pub: fresh, organic, & local! They could sell at the bar, the farmers market, and through a CSA. It’s a moral and just idea for a new America. Yes we can!

  22. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:31 pmOdie said:

    @9

    “fun times in the dressing room” Shen? you are such a naughty girl…

  23. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:35 pmThatGrrl said:

    But it has to be cheap. I like my beer cheap. And plentiful. Oh, screw it. Does it taste good? I’m there.

    Wonder how much of a pain it would be to create an entry other than that middle stairway thing. Something along a wall or possibly from the back. The elevator for equipment, the handicapped, stuff the staff has to lug upstairs is a fantastic one, too.

  24. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:37 pmStanley said:

    23: How about upstairs as a sort of bisto-ish dining room, and downstairs (with several walls knocked out) as the music hall?

  25. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:39 pmThatGrrl said:

    @24 That would certainly solve the “OMG the floor is going to cave in” feeling that a good night with Southern Culture on the Skids or the Hackensaw Boys creates. Wonder which is the cheaper option. You’d have to do some serious reconfiguring.

  26. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:42 pmStanley said:

    Oh, I had even thought about the kitchen. I guess that would have to move upstairs, too, in my imagined re-do. Unless they got dumbwaiters! I love dumbwaiters.

  27. 02 Apr 2008 at 3:49 pmWingnut said:

    i saw some good shows there and would like for it to be a music place again, but the design was pretty much crap. a few of the bands i talked to after their sets HATED playing at Star Hill because when you’re up on stage you’re looking directly into the lights in that ceiling cut-out. not to mention how small the stage is and, oh yeah, THERE’S A BIG EFFING HOLE IN THE FLOOR!!!

  28. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:01 pmSuggestionBox said:

    The building can’t really be reconfigured that much, architecturally. It’s registered as an historic thingie. That’s why it’s not required to have a handicapped entrance. Coran tried to make changes, couldn’t happen. Wonder if the dude bought the lease only or the building from the landlord?

  29. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:10 pmdoof said:

    there’s another stairwell in the back between the bar and the bathrooms, but it empties out in the back of the building, if that wasn’t a problem for the future owner, then I’d think you could do away with the stairwell in the middle of the space. Might have to add another exit in the back with a fire-escape or something to meet code, but it could be done.

  30. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:14 pmshenanigans said:

    @22: Yes
    @25: When 2 Skinnee Jays played, the bouncer kept coming upstairs and asking us not to jump up and down, that it was damaging the floor/downstairs ceiling. We were like “Fuck you!” and all started just pounding on the floor. Haha.

  31. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:14 pmDarkstar said:

    If possible, they should knock out most of the upper level and just leave a balcony, then put the stage on the ground floor like a normal venue. It would solve the problem of the low stage/ceiling, the awkward entrance stairs, and the hole in the floor. Of course, it probably would make the building fall down, but youve gotta make sacrifices in the name of rock sometimes.

  32. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:17 pmThatGrrl said:

    Aren’t there houses right behind there? I’m betting those people wouldn’t be any happier than the folks in Belmont are over the pavilion, if they suddenly had to deal with folks loudly wandering around their neighborhood around midnight. A front entrance sort of keeps that from happening. I’m not saying it couldn’t be done, but it wouldn’t seem terribly neighborly.

  33. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:20 pmSilmo Syrup said:

    @31 - funny

  34. 02 Apr 2008 at 4:23 pmStanley said:

    Presumably, the new establishment’s proprietor will be reading this thread, taking several of our helpful suggestions, and, out of gratitude, granting lifetime VIP infinite-free-drink status to all cVillains. Which is, like, wicked cool of him or her.

  35. 02 Apr 2008 at 11:45 pmfive said:

    I like the way you think Stanley.

    Even better, the way Shenanigans holds it down at concerts, “had some fun times in the dressing room.” We know where to go for dirt on the band-members.

  36. 03 Apr 2008 at 8:30 amDonk said:

    @30

    I miss 2 Skinnee J’s.
    http://www.2sj.com/
    Looks like there’s a comeback tour (or at least show) and the tickets go on sale this AM.

    I find myself seriously contemplating buying tickets for a show all the way in NYC.

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