Friends with Benefits

At one time or another most of us have been in a certain kind of relationship called ‘friends with benefits’.  Generally the benefits don’t include gym membership and health insurance (though I met one young lady who told me she’d take this as an option over sex) - so you get the idea.  You’re good friends, you both get horny, you both get drunk, and it’s usually all at the same bar.  You’re both twenty something downtown-bar-hopping kids with libidos that cannot be contained.  What a coincidence!  Why not kill two birds with one stone and in the morning get a hungover breakfast at Blue Moon, have a couple mimosas, and go your separate ways.  There’s no emotional attachment, you both get your hookup with person of choice, and life is good - right?

Well, unfortunately the ‘friends with benefits’ model is eventually threatened by the prospect of a more serious relationship.  I polled a half dozen men and women about this subject and came up with a list of warning signs for those currently in FWB status.  If you start to exhibit any of these behaviors, or your benefit friend does, you are drifting towards relationship territory.  Take it as you will - I know plenty of people who started out as FWBs and ended up happily dating.  None of these things are inherently bad, but be aware - if a relationship is not at all what you want then these are 10 warning signs that you’re drifting in the wrong direction:

In no order of importance:

1- You go over to their house and don’t have sex.

2- Keeping anything personal at their house in anticipation of the next time you go over - this includes (especially) a toothbrush, medication, underwear, etc.

3- If you provide things for your FWB before they come over, i.e. “You said you liked cinnamon so I bought these cinnamon candles.”

4- When you stop seeing other people because of your FWB - this often happens unconsciously.  OR if you do start dating someone else there are pangs of guilt or worry your FWB might find out.

5- Be careful of pillowtalk.  We all say some ridiculous stuff that upon recollection makes us cringe:

Did I tell her she had soft hair last night?

Did I hold him in my arms and (twirling his hair in my fingers) ask if he ever thought about the future?

Did I brush the hair from her face, look her in the eyes and tell her she was beautiful?

Any of these things are sooooo adorable and sweet to say but WAKE UP!  These are things you say to someone you want to develop something with - not a FWB.  For a FWB the following is appropriate to say afterwards:

Wow, that was awesome.

or just go to sleep.  That works too.

6- Calls in the middle of the day ‘just to chat’.  Texts/emails/Cvillain posts are OK - they’re not as personal.

7- Going anywhere where you show up together and leave together.

8- You make plans to hook up more than 24 hours in advance.

9- You mention the FWB (even in passing) to one of your parental units.

10- You didn’t meet on Cvillain.

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334 Responses to “Friends with Benefits”

  1. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:27 amoy said:

    I don’t get number 1 - assuming you were “friends” before any benefits, didn’t you go over to each others houses and hang out before the sweatiness began?

  2. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:32 amalteros said:

    I kind of agree with oy. Some of these make it sound like you’re limiting a “FWB” to be just, well, “B” - if you were friends first, a lot of these things might occur. I guess you’ve gotta take the frequency, context, etc. into account. I guess that’s why cbob had all those disclaimers right before the list…

  3. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:38 amThor said:

    Wait, so you can meet someone on cVillain and no rules apply?!

  4. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:38 amdieter said:

    I thought the number one rule of the FWB was you could be on a date and the Friend WB would be cool with it and not cause a problem. The reverse has to be true as well. Then 2 nights later you could see each other at a bar and hook up.

    To echo the others the “b” is for benefit not oBligation

  5. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:41 amuva non-dousche said:

    Definately a sticky situation…someone always ends up getting hurt (not just the girl!). It’s one of those ‘good on paper’ situtaions, but in real life, the instant gratification is outweighed by the overwhelming inconvenience’s and inherent jealousies that naturally happen between men and women. Bad news bears, pretty much.

  6. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:44 amiamglamazon said:

    isn’t a friendship a relationship?
    i think that some of these numbered items help maintain the friendship part of “FWB” whereas yes, some of them indicate the onset of a more romantic entanglement (namely 4&5). more importantly, people need to be honest with themselves; true self-awareness will ultimately let you know if you are desiring more from the relationship than “FWB”

    i think another important list to note is the frightening “SWB”: stalkers with benefits. for those unfortunate enough to have “B” turn “SWB” we should perhaps extrapolate and enumerate the warning signs.

  7. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:44 amecho said:

    One sure-fire way to turn a “friend with benefits” into an “angry friend without benefits” is to hook up with her sister. Not worth it, but so worth it.

  8. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:45 amKCB said:

    Damn all you single people with no morals and bed-hopping. You are going to hell for your sins!

    /wish I could go too

  9. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:47 amecho said:

    @8: Not if you’re Buddhist. Then you can just beam you consciousness out of your crown chakra, and you don’t have to worry about going to hell.

    /That had to be close sweet.

  10. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:49 amChris said:

    Goodness, definitive proof that I’m way too old to be reading this site.

  11. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:59 amuva non-dousche said:

    Is it possible to be too old for FWB? I sure hope not…

  12. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:06 amThisSideUp said:

    I’d say the only limiting factor to FWB is being in a committed relationship. Age shouldn’t be a factor.

  13. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:11 amdieter said:

    I have a friend who told me that she was shocked the bed hopping that went on in the old folks home were she worked.

    So you’ve got that to look forward to

  14. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:11 amiamglamazon said:

    @12: agreed

  15. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:15 amSho said:

    Some of these rules don’t apply to some people who actually emphasize the “friends” part of FWB.

    @13

    Gross… but true.

  16. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:18 ambelmont yo said:

    This topic needs more charts.

  17. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:20 amThor said:

    @10.. Chris.. no way! No one is too old, in fact you can let us know why we are all stupid!

  18. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:21 amdieter said:

    @16 great chart but one thing - I don’t do brunch

  19. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:30 ambelmont yo said:

    I said… more charts.

  20. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:32 ambelmont yo said:

    Charts!

  21. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:34 amMarshall said:

    I’d love to try and parlay this into a “workplace” caveat, but then I’d probably just end up grumbling…

  22. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:35 amcbob said:

    Charts?

  23. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:35 ambelmont yo said:

    Charts!

    /sorry. please carry on… I’ll stop the silly. this topic is rather radioactive.

  24. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:36 amdieter said:

    @20 that chart does not take the zipper in to account- just sayin’

  25. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:36 amecho said:

    You’re looking for charts?

  26. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:38 amcbob said:

    And I thought cbob was such a sensitive guy… I thought he cared! He’s just a jerk. You’ll see on Saturday - you just wait!

  27. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:50 amuva non-dousche said:

    @25…pretty accurate chart, i’d say.

  28. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:51 amecho said:

    @27: I like the 2 people at the bottom.

  29. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:57 amSmiley said:

    Most of my friends have health insurance. What’s the big deal?

  30. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:00 amSmiley said:

    Oh, you mean THOSE benefits.

    /nevermind

  31. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:05 amuva non-dousche said:

    @28, yeah they look like winners. But this topic is quite frustrating, at least you know echo, that I know a thing or two about this topic (*hopes no one thinks I’m a ho bag*) and just trust me everyone, nothing good (besides an occasional orgasm and perhaps some free food sometimes and a pathetic excuse for companionship) comes out of it in the end…

  32. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:06 amThisSideUp said:

    So you mean plenty of good things then.

  33. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:11 amuva non-dousche said:

    Haha tousche!

  34. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:16 amecho said:

    @31: I think @32 pretty much nailed that one. Did you stay until last call?

  35. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:19 amuva non-dousche said:

    Yeah, pretty much…waking up this morning was no fun at all. Did you cab it home?

  36. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:22 amThisSideUp said:

    If you’d had a FWB you would have had fun waking up!

  37. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:24 amuva non-dousche said:

    Lol, what is it with guys and morning sex? I, for one, am not a huge fan…my breath stinks, i have no idea what I look like (*hair and remnants of the previous nights make-up are probably horrifying looking*), and just feel dirty. Morning wood is not my friend.

  38. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:25 amecho said:

    @35: Yeah, as soon as I walked out, there was a cab sitting there. Waking up was fine, surprisingly, but staying awake has been a bit of challenge.

  39. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:29 amecho said:

    Where’s Uva LaGrape? You know she would have a strong opinion about this.

  40. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:29 amThisSideUp said:

    WELL in my case my g/f is beautiful all the time!

  41. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:34 amuva non-dousche said:

    @40, wish we could all be so lucky! and i agree, she is very naturally pretty and very nice as well :)
    @38…as bad as this question might sound…going out tonight? (haha, im not an alcoholic, i promise!)

  42. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:36 amecho said:

    @41: I’m not planning on it, but you never know what will happen. I feel like I should take the night off to let my liver prepare for the weekend.

  43. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:38 amuva non-dousche said:

    yeah im with you…but i’m going home this weekend and probably won’t drink much so I’m debating…depends on what kind of bad influences get to me tonight

  44. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:42 amuva non-dousche said:

    Hey btw, does anyone know of any restaurants hiring? I’m a good waitress and have lots of experience and need a new job badly…

  45. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:42 amecho said:

    If I end up going out I’ll let you know.

  46. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:43 amuva non-dousche said:

    sounds good…do you go to south steet every tuesday? ThisSideUp should come next tuesday…continue the tradition in memory of Odie haha

  47. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:47 amecho said:

    Yeah I go every Tuesday unless I’m out of town for work. It’s my favorite night of the week.

  48. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:50 amfive said:

    @47. Mine too.

  49. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:52 amuva non-dousche said:

    Yeah I had a good time…it just sucks though because Biltmore, at the corner, has $2 pitchers on Tuesdays. I love this for several reasons: 1) I live right near there, so driving is not an issue 2) I know the bartender and he’s awesome and hooks it up 3) They take my corner meal plan for alcohol, which is amazing. So thanks mom and dad for every drink I buy there 4) All my friends go there on Tuesdays.
    Therein lies my problem…I might have to start rotating between the two every week.

  50. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:53 amecho said:

    Swim swam, do you know what happened to the archives?

  51. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:54 amecho said:

    @49: Yeah driving is always an issue. That’s why I rarely go to the corner.

  52. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:59 amorchid said:

    @18 ooh my crush on dieter strengthens.

    @37 especially if you drank enough to get into bed with someone else in the first place. when you’re hungover, the last thing you want in your face is mai tai breath.

  53. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:16 pmbelmont yo said:

    Morning sex rocks.

    /that is all.

  54. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:22 pmuva non-dousche said:

    In my studies, I’ve come to conclude that women feel the most ideal time to have sex is approx. 3:30 in the afternoon. I’m guessing because it’s afternoon, your awake, the day is for the most part over, your relaxed and not sleepy like you are in the early morning or late night…Idk, these are my assumptions, and as a woman, I find that I am in agreement. Men, strike at 3:30!

    /looks at watch and is dissapointed

  55. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:23 pmmc said:

    oh man, I’m guilty of some of the dumbest FWB pillow talk ever. I feel really bad for the friend I told was “acting like a girl” when he invited me to stay over. Or to the friend who puzzled over why I decided to announce my religion in the middle of making out. Or to anyone who I gave the impression that I didn’t understand the fantastic casualness implicit in the FWB contract. I’m usually drunk at these times, so that’s my default excuse.

    /not a ho, just an unemployed monogamist

  56. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:24 pmmc said:

    @53: word.

  57. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:25 pmdieter said:

    @52 If I could only be sure you were female ;)

  58. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:27 pmdieter said:

    @55 you’re not Amish are you? Because posting here would be a big no no as well

  59. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:29 pmaussiebound said:

    @53 & 56. Agreed. Morning sex is an excellent way to start the day :)

  60. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:32 pmuva non-dousche said:

    guess im in the minority :(
    echo, whats ur favorite fri & sat night spots?

  61. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:38 pmmc said:

    58: dude, huh? is idiotic pillow talk a common feature of the Amish?

    also, why is this thread becoming the free for all… come on kids, take it outside.

  62. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:46 pmmc said:

    oooh, the religion thing. No, I think (and my mind is really fuzzy on this) my point was that my people are known for their combined fertility and premarital sex leading to unplanned changes in marital status. But I’m pretty sure I didn’t express the thought in that nuanced way. I’m pretty sure I just said, “dude, I’m catholic!”

  63. 31 Jul 2008 at 12:48 pmdieter said:

    @61 you said you talked about religion in the midst of the macking- if that religion was Amish that would present all types of interesting dilemma’s.

  64. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:03 pmmc said:

    I gotcha.

    seriously, though, I appreciate FWBs and also this post of warning signs (fist bump, cbob). They get us through the lean times in a pleasant and safe way and you get nice one on one time with someone you probably get along with in normal life, without adding drama to social life, work life, etc… it’s a win win win.

  65. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:12 pmChris said:

    Ah, that’s what I get for attempting brevity. I certainly didn’t mean to imply that one could be too old for a FWB situation. Good grief, that’d be downright depressing. More the idea of worrying about a FWB situation that seemed like a long-ago, of-my-youth kind of thing. When I was younger (and I’m not old, just older than I once was - wow that sounds deep or something) I, too, pondered the nature of all of my interactions and inspected them for hidden meanings and motivations. I think that’s good. I think we all should think a lot about what we do and how we are with others. (Granted, it was probably more an amazing level of self-centered-ness, but I’m feel generous.) As I’ve gotten older, I realized that I was more likely to take things for what they are and not worry much about the rest until there’s something to worry about.

    I was also thinking (when I was typing earlier) that nos. 1, 2, 3, 6, 7, 8, 9 (and perhaps 10) are all things that would bow to expediency or courtesy. Having a toothbrush and a change of clothes where you sleep is a good move. Buying the unfrosted blueberry Poptarts when you buy your frosted strawberry ones because the person you keep having good enough sex with to keep having sex with them likes to eat unfrosted blueberry Poptarts seems like a good way to help keep having sex with that person and also its a nice thing to do. More than 24 hours in advance: sometimes life is busy and you have to schedule, no choice in the matter if you want to actually have the whole benefits part. And so on.

    Now, everyone should take all of this with a block of salt. I had a great FWB arrangement going. Then it didn’t go so well. Now we’re married. Very happily so for a few years and we have a dog. I’m clearly better at the FWB in theory. But I still think getting the cinnamon candles is a nice thing to do. (Or, I would if I liked scented candles.)

  66. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:15 pmThor said:

    Chris.. so insightful.

    I do believe a welcome is in order. Help yourself to the free lightbulbs and the work-at-home pooping kit.

  67. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:18 pmdieter said:

    I had a great FWB arrangement going. Then it didn’t go so well. Now we’re married.
    This leaves so much to the imagination and misinterpretation.

  68. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:32 pmecho said:

    @60: Friday is usually a drinking marathon of sorts. 3 wine tastings, Fridays after 5, dinner, then a combination of Zocalo, Blue Light, South Street and X Lounge. Occasionally there is a stop by sweet’s house for free alcohol to minimize the cost.

    Saturday is usually South Street then X Lounge or wherever the Villains are hanging out.

    /I miss OXO

  69. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:51 pmlisa said:

    Friends with benefits is something I have neither believed in nor understood. Have to be more than friends to sleep with me as I dont give it away, just not my style :P

  70. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:53 pmsweet said:

    My latest FWB situation took us to Venice and Paris. I do not recommend this…all of a sudden the romance starts to swallow the casual nature of the arrangement. Sucks to be in Paris and running away from the ladyfriend who is with you…she was thinking marriage, I was thinking airplane. We no longer speak (imagine that).

    /@9 yessir echo sir….just shoot it right out the top and fear no evil. We can practice this weekend when under the influence…such fun.

    /back to work….the pain, the process, the quicker-picker-upper

  71. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:53 pmThor said:

    @69 .. I don’t think FWB really exists, to be honest. Does anyone know anyone who does the hookup thing more than a few times who doesn’t do anything on that list?

  72. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:55 pmecho said:

    @71: I have a story, but it will never see the light of day the interwebs.

  73. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:58 pmiamglamazon said:

    good to see that my original fear of cvillains’ hauntings by SWBs is unfounded

  74. 31 Jul 2008 at 1:59 pmuva non-dousche said:

    haha poor echo…between a rock and a hard place if you will

  75. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:00 pmbelmont yo said:

    as I dont give it away

    So what’s your going rate?

  76. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:00 pmecho said:

    @74: You don’t even know this story. Maybe next time.

  77. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:07 pmStanley said:

    I’m pretty sure I just said, “dude, I’m catholic!”

    A sure way to signal to your hook-up partner that things are going to get guilty, guilty, guilty, all the way down.

    (See it’s okay for me to say, cause I was raised by Cathol, too.)

  78. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:07 pmuva non-dousche said:

    man, you’ve got some good stories…i will be held in suspense until I get to hear it

  79. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:11 pmcbob said:

    guilty, guilty, guilty, all the way down

    Songtitle of the day.

  80. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:13 pmuva non-dousche said:

    Has anyone on here had a great FWB experience and once the sex or friendship got old, just amicably went their seperate ways? OR stopped the sex and became ‘just friends’ again? I want to know if that is more than a FWB ideal myth

  81. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:20 pmmc said:

    @77: word. as soon as I said it, I knew it was the WRONG thing to say.

    @80: yep, and with a person I worked with! so we had to maintain a good relationship, we totally did and he’s still awesome to this day.

  82. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:29 pmThisSideUp said:

    @46 TSU rarely makes personal appearances.

  83. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:34 pmuva non-dousche said:

    ouch, i see how it is
    /tear

  84. 31 Jul 2008 at 2:41 pmFloozy said:

    @75 Byo ha..haha… now that’s a Floozy line if I ever I saw one.
    My term for a FWB is a Fuck Buddy…. and it works just fine.

  85. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:13 pmuva non-dousche said:

    Paula: Andy. Have you ever heard of the term… ‘Fuck Buddy?’
    Andy Stitzer: No… What’s that?
    Paula: Well, it’s a special… friend… who you fuck.

    sorry, couldn’t help myself

  86. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:15 pmoy said:

    Has anyone on here had a great FWB experience and once the sex or friendship got old, just amicably went their seperate ways? OR stopped the sex and became ‘just friends’

    Yeah. She got a boyfriend and I was truly happy for her.

  87. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:20 pmFloozy said:

    @85 I think it was in Sex and the City as well but am too lazy to go look. SJP had one.

  88. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:24 pmuva non-dousche said:

    nah, 40 year old virgin

  89. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:35 pmThisSideUp said:

    OMG it’s 3:35!

  90. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:38 pmFloozy said:

    Well if you are going to be a mispelt douche, here you go fuck buddy
    /now that is 90 seconds of my life I am NEVER getting back just because I had to prove a point.

  91. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:39 pmFloozy said:

    fuck buddy
    Stanley/Thor… why do my links only work second time?

  92. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:46 pmlisa said:

    @75 –priceless…..its called love.

  93. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:48 pmuva non-dousche said:

    @89 haha, we’re all in our prime, time to pounce!
    @90 I wasn’t implying that there wasn’t a sex and the city fuck buddy episode, i was just commenting that my quote was from 40 year old virgin

  94. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:49 pmecho said:

    its called love.

    So that’s like 2 dinners, a night of drinks, and the easiest three word lie a guy has ever said?

  95. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:56 pmuva non-dousche said:

    well said echo

  96. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:57 pmThisSideUp said:

    @93 That sucks. What happens when both halves work 8-5?

  97. 31 Jul 2008 at 3:59 pmLulu said:

    @96: Nooner in the boss’ office while he’s at lunch?

  98. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:01 pmThisSideUp said:

    @97 Ha! When I came back from lunch today I saw one of my coworkers in the parking lot and I asked him or her where he or she was going and he or she said “Going home for a nooner.”

  99. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:03 pmuva non-dousche said:

    weekend you can always hit the prime or settle for the immediate 5:15pm pounce, when you both get home from work…then there’s always the possibility of the lunch rendezvous, but that can get tricky, gotta be on your game for that one

  100. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:06 pmThisSideUp said:

    And this is why I prefer the pre or post work love fiesta, too much work and planning involved in the special time. But I’m not gonna turn down any lunch time sweatiness with the lady friend either.

  101. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:19 pmuva non-dousche said:

    All this ‘love fiesta’ talk is making me ‘frustrated’, if you know what I mean…

  102. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:23 pmThisSideUp said:

    And that is a perfect example of why a FWB is an appropriate thing to have…unless, as mentioned earlier, one is in a committed relationship. I guess that would be simply a BF or GF with the B implied.

  103. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:30 pmuva non-dousche said:

    Once again *delimma* … long distance relationship = not enough love fiestaing, which = :(

  104. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:31 pmStanley said:

    Stanley/Thor… why do my links only work second time?

    Because you comment drunk?

    /Back to serious face: I recommend using an html test bed.

  105. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:34 pmThisSideUp said:

    @103 Maybe YOU could use an html test bed for your problemo too!

  106. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:39 pmFloozy said:

    I personally believe it is a Spicy Bear conspiracy to double the comment figures and impress gullible advertisers.
    /Stanley…. stop being serious and come and jump on the html test bed with me.

  107. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:39 pmuva non-dousche said:

    haha, im a fan of that, no worries ;) girls are just as much proponents of ‘html test beds’ as men are

  108. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:40 pmThisSideUp said:

    Is there going to be an html pillow fight at the party on Saturday?

  109. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:41 pmStanley said:

    My html test bed is covered with sheets. Cascading style sheets. And I also eat in bed, but it’s cool—it’s an RSS feed, served with a cup of java.

  110. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:43 pmuva non-dousche said:

    aw, i wish i could come to the party saturday…boohoo

  111. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:44 pmThisSideUp said:

    Yeah me too but I’m at a house party in NoVa.

  112. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:45 pmecho said:

    @110 & 111: LAME

  113. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:46 pmuva non-dousche said:

    lame cause we’re boohooing about it or lame because we’re not going to be there?

  114. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:47 pmecho said:

    I’m thinking about staying sober for the party though. I feel like that would leave a more lasting impression. No one ever sees me sober.

  115. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:47 pmecho said:

    Because you’re not going to be there

  116. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:47 pmThisSideUp said:

    @114 Speaking of LAME

  117. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:49 pmuva non-dousche said:

    lamesauce, even…who’s sober at a party besides those weird intellectual (aka geeky) types who claim they don’t need to get drunk to have fun?

  118. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:49 pmThor said:

    Floozy.. no idea why you can’t do linkys right… does anyone else have problems? you sure you are doing them correctly?

  119. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:50 pmThor said:

    oh.. and of course it’s a conspiracy.. it’s cVillain after all

  120. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:50 pmThisSideUp said:

    I mean, I’ve got problems. Everyone has problems, right? Right?!

  121. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:51 pmecho said:

    @116 & 117: Do you really think I can spend an entire Saturday night sober? I can barely spend a Monday night sober.

  122. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:51 pmThisSideUp said:

    No. So stop the foolish talk and admit you’re getting bombed.

  123. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:53 pmThisSideUp said:

    In fact, I can imagine you having one of those beer/drink fetcher kids there with you.

  124. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:55 pmuva non-dousche said:

    im going home the next two weekends in a row, i guess that means gotta go to SS tues and cdc wed (depending where it is). i wish i had gone when it was at shebeen, i like that place.

  125. 31 Jul 2008 at 4:56 pmecho said:

    @123: Not a bad idea. Floozy, bring me a beer fetcher to the party. I don’t talk to mine. Can’t let them know where I live.

    @124: Yeah I guess you kinda have no choice then.

  126. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:17 pmuva non-dousche said:

    /home from work, bored

  127. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:19 pmThor said:

    Give us your myspace!

  128. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:21 pmuva non-dousche said:

    what happens if i do? haha

  129. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:21 pmecho said:

    Home from work?

  130. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:21 pmStanley said:

    126: You could write a cVillain post.

  131. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:33 pmuva non-dousche said:

    i’m new to here, idk if im ready to make a post just quite yet ha

  132. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:33 pmuva non-dousche said:

    @129, yes home from work…it was a longggg day

  133. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:37 pmThor said:

    you will get 20 women-starved dudes drooling over you

  134. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:45 pmuva non-dousche said:

    haha idk about that…but there is some stuff i wouldnt mind writing about

  135. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:52 pmThor said:

    DOOO ITTTT

  136. 31 Jul 2008 at 5:59 pmmc said:

    never thought I’d be the one to say this, after all my cliquish behavior, but you guys are boring me to tears: write each other email for fucks sake! or at least go to the free for all where I can ignore you. Home from work, party in NoVa, already planning next Wednesday’s outing on a thursday??? cleverness and funny stories, people, cleverness and stories, that’s what we value. Not that we all hit it every time, but oh man, this mundane stuff has gotta stop.

  137. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:00 pmuva non-dousche said:

    why not…who do i give it to

  138. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:01 pmdieter said:

    It’s that subtle charm that Thor has always used to charm the ladies

  139. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:05 pmuva non-dousche said:

    was I charmed? when did that happen?

  140. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:09 pmdieter said:

    @139 You didn’t find Thor’s truncated use of Nike’s corporate slogan charming?

  141. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:10 pmuva non-dousche said:

    no comment

  142. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:14 pmdieter said:

    @141 not very bloggery of you :)

  143. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:17 pmcbob said:

    mc I love you.

  144. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:19 pmmc said:

    @143: thank god someone out there heard my cries. I’m gonna go poke my eyes out now.

  145. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:27 pmbelmont yo said:

    and cdc wed (depending where it is)

    CDC is at Pantop’s Applebees next week.

  146. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:27 pmdieter said:

    @144 poking you eyes out? What happen did you sleep with your mom?

  147. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:31 pmuva non-dousche said:

    maybe im getting this wrong, since i’m new to blogging and cvillain, but i thought blogging was an online forum to discuss pretty much what you want to discuss, which is what we were doing. please tell me if i am wrong, im fine with that.
    @145, how do you know that?

  148. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:51 pmiamglamazon said:

    i’m with mc on this one, if our threads & comments were outfits, we’d get a beat down by the fashion mafia for clashing.

  149. 31 Jul 2008 at 6:59 pmmc said:

    a) belmont is fucking with you. it’s sarcasm!

    b) sure, fine discuss whatever you want. Can you at least try to entertain me? No? then why broadcast it? A lot of people griped about this one a while back, so they made a free for all where you can discuss what you ate for lunch or that your toe itches to your heart’s content. I don’t want this blog to look like a chatroom of inanity, that’s all I’m saying. (rock on 148)

    c) parlie’s not here, so I’m being the resident anti-interneter

    /get the fuck off my lawn

  150. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:07 pmuva non-dousche said:

    i get your point, but no need to get nasty, i didn’t…sorry if this blog isn’t my life, and entertaining you or anybody isn’t my goal.

  151. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:08 pmmc said:

    and whoa, I know you’re new here, so I realize I’m being a bit harsh. sorry about that.

  152. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:12 pmcbob said:

    I don’t know what you guys are upset about - I told mc I loved her and she went to poke her eyes out. THAT is fucked up! There’s gonna be a throwdown on saturday!

  153. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:13 pmiamglamazon said:

    in that case, back on topic. i think the standing question is: does anyone have or has anyone had a FWB that ended amiably? is it even humanly possible?

    statistically speaking, most of mine have ended miserably, but in such a way that it was fwB rather than FWb in the first place. if i lose interest in the person as a friend, the benefits pretty much go out the window, too.

    there is this one saga in my life that continues to be amiable, but there was a period of ill emotions between us. still the former benefits lurk right around some darkened corner, i’m thankful for that. the alternative apparition is less appealing: former bonuses appearing as invisible elephants nourished by awkward conversation between the redefined friends.

  154. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:13 pmmc said:

    your passive agressiveness is impressive. develop that!

  155. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:15 pmorchid said:

    @145 goddammit, the one time i’m not there to be in walking distance.

    my favorite time for sex was when i came home from my 8:30am kickboxing class and pounced on my sleeping boyfriend.

    i am not saying i would ever say no to it.

  156. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:16 pmcbob said:

    @153 Actually yeah… Some I never spoke to much anymore but that was less of an animosity thing and more of a drifting apart thing. I guess there is a distinction that must be made between f*ckbuddies or bootycalls and FWBs?

  157. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:18 pmiamglamazon said:

    orchid, i knew you were into p&p

  158. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:22 pmiamglamazon said:

    cbob, let us make the definition readily available now,

    fuckbuddy -n- a companion whose sole function in an individual’s life is casual sex

    care to round out the cvillain lexicon with a definition of FWB?

  159. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:24 pmmc said:

    @154 is @ 150, I hope obviously.

    @ 152: IT’S ON!

    @153, I think I answered this one earlier (can’t find it up there? hmmm), but the answer is yes. I have hadn’t had many FWBs, but none have been diastrous yet. I tend to choose carefully and either it develops or it ends, but we’re always still friends/aquaintainces/people who don’t create stress/drama for each other.

  160. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:25 pmcbob said:

    Well that’s up for debate I guess. I’d assume someone you are friends with and occasionally hook up with when you’re drunk is a FWB. You’re right that some of those things above may apply more to fuckbuddies.

  161. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:26 pmcbob said:

    I have hadn’t had

    Can’t make up your mind or can’t remember? ;)

  162. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:29 pmiamglamazon said:

    160, in that case, i’m going to go mix a FWB cocktail for a friend of mine, and another, and another

  163. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:42 pmmc said:

    @161: HA! that should read “haven’t had.” what with my eyes done poked out, i cain’t hardly read.

  164. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:44 pmorchid said:

    a good way to keep FWBs FWBs is to have an actual relationship with someone else.

  165. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:47 pmStanley said:

    I have a Friend Without Benefits. He’s a real drag. Never pays for his drinks, constantly crashing on my couch and eating my food. He brings me no benefit at all, and I really don’t know why we’re still friends.

  166. 31 Jul 2008 at 7:50 pmiamglamazon said:

    damn, orchid! that’s pretty disrespectful, but i can’t knock it because i haven’t tried it.

  167. 31 Jul 2008 at 8:22 pmlisa said:

    @94 Maybe for some but not for me. Dont have to be so damn harsh :| I was merely stating how I felt about it. So yea, whatever.

  168. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:11 pmecho said:

    Where to begin…at the end I guess.

    @167: @94 was a joke. I’m sure your a a very respectable, classy woman who prefers a relationship to a one night stand. Sorry you were offended.

    @136: If you look at the rest of the posts, no one was saying anything this afternoon. I assumed that meant no one else was around. I decided to have a conversation with a couple friends. Sorry that bothered you. Next time I’ll be sure to take it somewhere else. I’d hate to crowd a blog that no one was using today.

    @uva: Don’t take any of it personally. Everyone vents sometimes. That’s part of what this site is for. Don’t take any of this seriously, and never trust anything b’yo says. He’s usually joking.

    /I’m sober, cut me some slack

  169. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:14 pmecho said:

    your a a very

    That should say “you are a very”

    /sorry grammar police

  170. 31 Jul 2008 at 9:32 pmChris said:

    @67 True. But isn’t it true of most things? A cautionary tale about FWB situations, but a good tale about finding someone great even if you’re kind of trying not to.

  171. 31 Jul 2008 at 10:16 pmlisa said:

    @168 Thanks for the clarification! I do appreciate it :) Over, done with, gone!

  172. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:27 pmorchid said:

    @169 thanks, echo. i was worried about you.

    @136 why is mc yelling at y’all? is she shen today?

  173. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:35 pmecho said:

    There was no shen today. She didn’t even come to rescue the kittehs.

  174. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:37 pmStanley said:

    why is mc yelling at y’all? is she shen today?

    Well, the gist of her remarks was “take it to the FFA or, heaven forfend, off-blog”. Which seems a reasonable request, if not necessarily stated in the politest of manners.

  175. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:55 pmdieter said:

    I even made an obvious oedipus rex joke when mc threatened to poke her eyes out and nothing

  176. 31 Jul 2008 at 11:59 pmFloozy said:

    Time of the month I reckon.

  177. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:02 amecho said:

    Sorry diets, I completely overlooked that one. Well said.

  178. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:02 amdieter said:

    The end of the month is bad for blogging?

  179. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:02 amdieter said:

    @177 my classical education is wasted once again

  180. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:15 amStanley said:

    The end of the month is bad for blogging?

    Everyone’s rushing to meet their comment quota. Like cops w/speeding tickets.

    my classical education is wasted once again

    You could always go boink your mother as consolation. And I mean that in the high-minded, cultural-reference way, not the boorish contemporary insult sort of way.

  181. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:18 amdieter said:

    But my dear Stanley if you couple the mater boinking with eye gouging, you have art that will stand the test of time.
    But I have to admit Oedipus is complex.

  182. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:23 amdieter said:

    Perhaps Floozy has taken my advice…where did she go?

  183. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:56 amStanley said:

    182: I think it’s most likely Flooze has shacked up with a Malaysian pen-tailed tree shrew.

  184. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:16 ammc said:

    I asked politely in 61. *sigh* you guys claim to be bored, in turn you bored me, instead of moping around about it, I acted. I’m not the blogger you need, just the blogger you deserve.

    dieter, no one grabbed your oedipus joke, but no one grabbed this in my angry comment either : Not that we all hit it every time. Villains seriously off our game today.

  185. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:23 amStanley said:

    I asked politely in 61

    I stand corrected: you did. And in case it’s not clear, I support your suggestion.

  186. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:24 ammc said:

    I know, dude, I know.

    /my fist, it’s bumping.

  187. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:03 amStanley said:

    186: Fist bump.

  188. 01 Aug 2008 at 3:54 amscoriole said:

    @53:
    sometimes, but sober at night with conversation and candles is also yummy.

    /everyone should probably get off the internet (and cell phones and tv and fast food and high fructose corn syrup). 1,2,3 now~!

  189. 01 Aug 2008 at 11:44 amshenanigans said:

    *Sigh* I miss being slutty.

  190. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:33 pmdf said:

    @189…almost a hour and no one responded to this?wow

  191. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:35 pmdieter said:

    @190 no one really believes Shen was ever slutty

  192. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:39 pmparlie said:

    yeah. no one.

  193. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:51 pmk bear said:

    @189 This one time… at band camp…

  194. 01 Aug 2008 at 12:56 pmk bear said:

    Well, who won? The suspense is killing me. I’ll just play with my new iPhone while I wait

  195. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:10 pmshenanigans said:

    @192: You liked it

  196. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:28 pmdieter said:

    There was a Shen Parlie hookup of shame? There was no mention of this in the FAQ

  197. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:36 pmparlie said:

    i like everything.

  198. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:38 pmStanley said:

    There was a Shen Parlie hookup of shame?

    One must fight fire with fire, as they say.

  199. 01 Aug 2008 at 1:41 pmshenanigans said:

    No shame!

  200. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:09 pmiamglamazon said:

    what’s a polite way to let someone know you want them in your stable?
    i’ve grown tired of waiting out drunken nights for a particular future FWB.

  201. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:10 pmshenanigans said:

    Put a saddle on their back

  202. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:12 pmiamglamazon said:

    201, i specified “polite”, shen

  203. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:15 pmshenanigans said:

    Do it gently and with a curtsey

  204. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:16 pmshenanigans said:

    “May I pretty please put this saddle on your back and then ride you like a pony?”

  205. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:17 pmecho said:

    @200: @204 would work.

  206. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:19 pmiamglamazon said:

    great, now i have ginuwine “my pony” stuck in my head, this is not a success in my book

  207. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:20 pmshenanigans said:

    @206: Me too. Aghhhh!
    @205: “Neigh! Neigh like the naughty little pony you are!” *smacking with whip*

  208. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:23 pmiamglamazon said:

    just desserts, shen.
    now, serious answers (re: 200)?

  209. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:24 pmuva non-dousche said:

    i think its a tricky question…there’s no answer b/c there’s no “polite” per se way to go about that one

  210. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:26 pmecho said:

    Just say “Do you wanna be my fuck buddy?” That comes across as a compliment and gets right to the point.

    /neigh

  211. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:28 pmuva non-dousche said:

    But, depending on the girl, you could get a drink in your face…or a big fat red handprint, depending on how fiesty the girl is. I’ve seen it, trust me.

  212. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:29 pmecho said:

    Wait wait wait wait…

    iamglamazon is a girl. I assume she’s trying to say this to a guy.

  213. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:30 pmecho said:

    If it’s a girl, just say “I love you.”

    /That was a joke lisa. I still think you’re classy.

  214. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:31 pmiamglamazon said:

    212: true.

  215. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:33 pmiamglamazon said:

    213: i’d rather say “May I pretty please put this saddle on your back and then ride you like a pony?” than that

    who’s lisa?

  216. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:35 pmuva non-dousche said:

    Hmm, with girls, you don’t really have to ask guys, do we? Just dance with them, grab their penis some, make out in the corner, and say “hey wanna go to my place?” (or something along the lines of that) and go for it. at least thats been my experience

  217. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:37 pmecho said:

    @215: It’s all in this same post. Go to 69, 75, 92, 94, 167 then 168. It’s just like breadcrumbs to Hansel and Gretel.

  218. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:41 pmThisSideUp said:

    @216 I’d say that applies to random hookups but I don’t know if that’s how you’d start a FWB relationship with someone you’ve already developed a friendship with. Although, I guess it could still work.

  219. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:42 pmiamglamazon said:

    218: i agree completely, hookups != FWBs

  220. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:45 pmuva non-dousche said:

    good point, i went add for a min and got off topic (this happens frequently)

  221. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:50 pmThisSideUp said:

    It is rapidly approaching 3:30. I hear all the fems on the site go ape about then.

  222. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:54 pmuva non-dousche said:

    So true
    /revved up and ready to go

  223. 01 Aug 2008 at 2:59 pmdieter said:

    For woman turning a F to a FWB is easier than the reverse. For when a woman see the guy as a friend that usually needs a lot of drinks and a recent breakup to change the equation. It comes as no surprise that most guys are easy.

    The FWB conversation cannot properly occur until after the first hookup. This way both party know what they are gettin’ in to. That way you know if you getting a freak or not and how that helps or hurts the benefits.
    For most woman it’s just about saying yes or using a little feminine charm. For the men it can be like being the date of a female praying mantis- if you do it just right nobody gets their head bit off.

    YMMV

  224. 01 Aug 2008 at 3:24 pmbuster said:

    to be a day late and several thousand dollars short here:

    i’ve had two FWBs that have worked out for the better - one of them ended up turning into one of my best friends, while the other i remain amicable with, with a “keep-in-back-of-mind” asterisk next to his name. so i don’t think they’re a bad idea, even though there have been a couple of close calls with deeper-relationship-type behavior that, thankfully, were worked through.

    now, uva non-douche, LDRs… that’s a whole ‘nother ballgame. you’re either incredibly brave or incredibly stupid. :) (i had a spectacular failure of an LDR after which i said ‘never again’, so i’m a bit biased)

    okay, well, i guess it’s time to go masturbate or something, seeing as it’s what time it is and all. see some of you cats tomorrow… maybe…

  225. 01 Aug 2008 at 3:43 pmk bear said:

    Where did everyone go?- OH it’s 3:42
    So most of the guys must be finished having sex by now

  226. 02 Aug 2008 at 3:02 amparlie said:

    IN SOVIET RUSSIA SEX IS FINSHED HAVING YOU!

    which doesn’t even make any sense.

  227. 02 Aug 2008 at 9:23 amdieter said:

    @226 if you keep telling those jokes it makes perfect sense

  228. 02 Aug 2008 at 11:09 amorchid said:

    what’s sex?

  229. 03 Aug 2008 at 11:40 amCatch-22 said:

    last night i ended up with a name tag that said “nice iphone wanna f**k” might keep wearing it till it works. . .

  230. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:07 pmScaft said:

    Hi, I’m new here, but I think you left out a critical component of the FWB list.

    11. If you’re not blowing a load in her hair at least one out of three hookups on average, you’re practically freaking married.

  231. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:22 pmuva non-douche said:

    what? was that directed at my #11 comment?

  232. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:23 pmecho said:

    @231: No, that was rule #11.

  233. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:25 pmuva non-douche said:

    Aha, thanks echo…i was confused
    /still drunk, I think

  234. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:37 pmThisSideUp said:

    I was trying to find a way to make that be directed at comment 11 but I just can’t get creative with it.
    /feels very ashamed

  235. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:38 pmshenanigans said:

    @230: Gross. That’ll get you taken off the FWB list

  236. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:42 pmecho said:

    @230: I like it when people make audacious comments as their introduction to the interwebs. Help yourself to some malt liquor in the mini-fridge and cheese whiz and crackers out back. Sounds like you have a bit of a mess to clean up. I think we have a new roll of paper towels in the basement. Just look out for parls while you’re down there.

  237. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:53 pmuva non-douche said:

    @230, that’s a low blow…face, chest aren’t so bad b/c it’s easy to clean up. But hair?! Come on, you gotta go through a whole process to get that out…no bueno.
    @234, nice try my friend. I have that problem frequently…I feel in person that I’m a good ZINGer, but on here, I get Zing-shy, if you will, and have bloggger’s block…
    on a differeint note, is it 3:30 yet?! ;)

  238. 06 Aug 2008 at 2:55 pmorchid said:

    @237 face not good because when it gets in the contacts it makes them foggy. & stings!

  239. 06 Aug 2008 at 3:00 pmuva non-douche said:

    I don’t wear contacts so problem solved, but I’m with you…eyes in general are unpleasant

  240. 06 Aug 2008 at 3:03 pmThisSideUp said:

    Wow. Loads through a girl’s perspective. Odd. It MUST be almost 330 with this kind of talk out of our resident fems.

  241. 06 Aug 2008 at 3:03 pmbelmont yo said:

    Um… my pants seem to be getting smaller.

  242. 06 Aug 2008 at 3:05 pm