We got a pretty interesting tip from a birdie this morning:
Are the Flirtresses under investigation for solicitation… Get to the silky bottom of that one cVillain
It’s ludicrous that this would happen, but it wouldn’t surprise us given the discussions we’ve had.
Tagged as: flirtress, Gossip, investigation, Rumors, solicitation, strippers
Sounds like a bald-faced lie to me. But for $100, I know someone who works at this bookstore…
Dude! The first rule of Sex Club…
Which part is ludicrous? Or am I missing some irony here?
I’m willing to believe it.
100 bucks seems pretty reasonable, but perhaps the discount is recession-driven.
I assume there aren’t homely and overweight Flirtresses?
/is the photo of one of them? no complaints.
@2 I don’t even know what you’re talking about. (I’m Jack’s twisted sense of irony.)
I’ve often wanted to be a sleazy enough type of person to try and capitalize off the potentially thriving porn/prostitution business the UVA student body offers.
Which flirtresses? I’m confused
@6
UVA offers this service? Poorly publicized if so—perhaps Kyle’s revolutionary internet-marketing scheme could help them bring this valuable business more directly to the attention of the public?
or, when you say ‘offers’ i assume you mean ‘offers to provide’ rather than ‘offers to use’?
or perhaps some combination of the two, take and give. We might have a use for our cougars yet.
@7
immortalized in Daily Progress article: “We’re not floozies…we just like to flirt…”
Anyone else catch this from that site?
Haidee Cline on July 9th, 2008 6:44 pm
Thanks for your comment, Thomas. I appreciate hearing another opinion on the subject. I apologize if I offended your friends. I don’t want to insult anyone; this isn’t Cvillain.
Made me laugh out loud…
/To each their own. Does anyone else find “flirtress” a somewhat…uninspiring portmanteau?
it would be fun to see the resume description of it that these gals will use.
So who/where’s that picture from?
@11: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1158/818821971_3870d32d12_m.jpg
Enjoy!
@8…. I can confirm that they are not mine…. and never have been.
@8 - poorly worded…what I meant was, I’m guessing there’s a bunch of UVA students that could be drafted into a porn and/or prostitution ring and I sometimes wish I was sleazy enough to try and make it happen. Of course, I’m assuming that it isn’t currently happening and well you know what happens when one assumes anything…
@14: 1)There are ads on CL for “models” needed for “adult movies” all the time
2) There are “adult entertainment” agencies locally where for ~$200 you can get a coed to come over and rub your back topless. Not saying the ladies are prostitutes but I know some customers will try to offer extra $$$ for HJs
@15
whassan ‘HJ’, Shen? Like the ‘happy-ending’ of legend?
i was approached at the C&O a number of years back by a gal who claimed to be part of a UVA ‘help-to-happiness’ ring, but it was 300 bucks even back then. Tall blonde, incidentally, and not un-attractive. Not sure how this is different legally or morally from the business praces of ‘co-hos’ if they in fact exist. Does the law differentiate between barter and monetary exchange?
HAND JOB
@17
ah.
/and what’s the point of that?
HAPPY ENDING
@19
OH! That’s what a ‘happy ending’ is?
Booooooooooor-ing. That’s far too bloody dull to be illegal.
/don’t they sell ‘do-it-at-home’ kits (self-administered) for that, anyways?
Um, it’s still a sex act that prostitutes do.
“there’s a sucker born every minute.”
/hahahahahahaha
By the way - you can buy the nippie stars seen in the picture at Derriere Du Soie. More info here: http://www.bristols6.com/00Home_new.html
That’s nipple oppression. Boooooo.
@23
they appear to be made of tinfoil–as a defensive measure, that should prevent your nippers’ thoughts from being read by aliens, psychics and cult-leaders.
@Post
“Due to versatile nature of Flirtress services,
prices are determined by duration of event and number of Flirtresses for your event.”
http://www.flirtresses.com/everything-you-want-to-know/
/’versatile’ and ‘event’ cover a lot of ground.
No, it’s just because they don’t wanna be laughed at for itemized listings such as:
Show up in little black dress + flirt for 1 hour = $100
Show up in lbd + flirt 1 hour + pour wine = $150
/doing the math
If they are made out of tin foil , does that mean they are TASER PROOF?!?!?!
@28
an interesting question.
if one of them swoops in on you for an unsolicited $150 ‘HJ’,
can you ZAP them back to mere wine-pouring and eyelash-batting?
don’t they sell ‘do-it-at-home’ kits (self-administered) for that, anyways?
Well, in some cases…
nice to have you back !
for the old-school:
http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/13346/200.jpg
This is all a bunch of gossip. I am not exactly sure where you are getting your info, but the “little birdy” is wrong. I think it’s quite hilarious that you all having nothing to do but sit around and WISH that there were hot girls soliciting…however, if you head to cherry ave you could find soliciting ladies…just not hot little uva ones. Wish you well, just thought I should set the record straight.
Don’t make it obvious that you are a flirtress or one of their friends or anything. N00b.
Anyone check police records on this rumor? Assume they must have a public record of arrests, complaints, pending indictments, and ongoing investigations–must be where Cville/Hook/DP get all their stuff.
@33
she does have the air, don’t she. nice of her to chime in on it, though—i was hoping one of them would let us know about this from the inside. never occurred to me though that a Flirtress would call herself ‘cute’, or that a gal in a SHORT black dress would eat sushi.
/OD endearing himself to everyone he meets.
/welcome back, Pink. Anxiously awaiting another cat-fight between you and Shen. The jello-pool awaits!
@34: Sorry OD, she only gets the internet when I’m not using it. And I hung out with my real-life jello wrestling partner last night at SS.
This rumor is ludicrous. The flirtress chicks are just stuck-up model wannabes. They wouldn’t lower themselves to sex work, they think they should get money just for being pretty.
sorry i missed the SS rapprochement with your gelatine-buddy; a hawt set of bookends, no doubt.
/do flirtresses identify themselves as such in real life?
I think it’s quite hilarious that you all having nothing to do but sit around and WISH that there were hot girls soliciting…
So the flirtresses AREN’T soliciting, but they do have a ’see you next tuesday’ bitchy ass attitude.
Appealing. I will be sure to hire them for my next event.
Christ on a cracker, y’all aint all that.
I’m no model, flirtress, or wannabe, nor do I know any flirtresses (never even met one), and I still don’t see this as anything but an excuse to slam them and speculate, not very kindly, about their activities.
That’s what we’re here for, sweetie. sorry.
Idle crude speculation and targetted snark are forces for positive social change. They initiate debate, provide feedback in a helpful Q-form poll format, and perhaps will allow the subjects to examine what they are doing and decide they made the right choice, or after the same examination tweak their ’spin’.
Consider what we do for restaurants, specific restaurant offerings, etc. If a plurality of commenters suggest that sheep-eyeballs are not the best item on the menu, perhaps the chef upon reading the comments in these threads will replace that dish with haggis or blood-sausage.
When a person or group presumes to launch themselves into the public eye, they invite both favourable and unfavourable reactions. Especially with a group such as the Flirtresses, who trade in flesh-with-vanity/attitude. Oft-quoted here, from the Daily Progress article: “We’re not floozies but we like to flirt…”. A statement such as that demands comment, if not outright mockery. It’s not that we don’t wish them well, nor that we ‘hate them because they’re beautiful”—it’s just that… (see all comments above and through-links).
and I still don’t see this as anything but
“This”? Topic? Comment? Police activity? Article?
Personally, I have no problem with what they are doing professionally- even if they were soliciting, which I tend to doubt fairly strongly.
My umbrage is raised by the blind condescension, and egregious self aggrandizement that was spewed @32. Pay someone with a ‘tude like that to be at a party? Not bloody likely.
/my two cents
@41: You WISH those hot girls would be at your party when you’re just sitting around.
tired of it costing me money to have girls be a bitch to me. many still have patience with that.
@40
“Idle crude speculation and targetted snark are forces for positive social change.” But are they effective when directed towards individuals one doesn’t personally know? Just out of curiosity, do you personally believe that any flirtress reading this would use it as constructive criticism?
I can see where poor restaurant reviews or voting may effect positive change, and I agree that launching oneself into the public eye leaves one open to critique. I just don’t feel that these (negative) responses have any value, or that they will change anything.
@41
“This” = collection of responses that may be defined as “Idle crude speculation and targetted snark.” I should have been more specific.
When you put yourself out there saying, “pay me to be pretty!” you invite speculation and snark. It’s just kind of vain dontcha think? Negative responses will come forth.
They did the constructive criticism on cvillestyle anyways…
@ 42. Yes. That is what I wish. Strippers that don’t take off their clothes and think they are better than everyone. Got me pegged. Damn. But really, what’s not to like?
/enjoys ’sitting around’
@ 44 Until my meaningless vitriol, can you please point to ONE comment in this thread that says anything negative about this organization? I bet you cant.
@ 45 Bingo.
@46: LOL
@44
Ever heard a speech by Ted Kennedy, John Murtha, Cindy Sheehan?
Ever seen a Jon Stewart Show, Saturday Night Live, Michael Moore film?
Ever read Cville Weekly Read This First, anything by Al Franken, The Onion?
this is all snarky and often calumniating and bitter drool aimed at changing the world, is usually pretty nasty, and is almost invariably targetted at people/things not personally known by the perpetrators.
/just sayin’
Opinions are like assholes…
@49
how do you poke pointy things up an opinion?
@46
Why leave out yours? It was one of the comments that prompted my own. Since you asked, start @27 and read down.
@27 is not negative. They do get paid to wear dresses and flirt and pour wine. Not sure how much though.
@48
Point taken! Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, SNL, Keith Olberman, Rachel Maddow, The Onion, et al. Are you saying this was the primary goal of posters? To educate viewers and effect change?
@57
I was referring to “No, it’s just because they don’t wanna be laughed at for itemized listings such as:” Is that really why they don’t itemize, or because each event is different enough that they can’t provide a standard pricing menu?
@ It’s probably hard to itemize their services yes, and it probably depends on each event and what they’re supposed to be doing, and I’m sure people would laugh at the “services” fully outlined. That was called a joke.
And all those people otter mentioned aren’t always just trying to educate viewers or effect change, sometimes they’re just making fun of things the think are ridiculous.
Most event models, including those used for trade shows (which have been around for decades) and event openings, etc. provide the same services described. No more, no less. The flirtresses aren’t doing anything new or different. As far as it being ridiculous, there are plenty of agencies around the country, and people/companies contracting for these same services, who would disagree. Perhaps the fees are steep for a small town like this, but they are much lower than in bigger cities.
@56; Yeah, duh. But I bet they market it more professionally and with less emphasis on being FLIRTYYYY but not FLOOZIES. Laugh.
@53
Yes, indubitably. Most comments here are in some form of feedback on real-world stuff, with a marked opinion/slant. Based on the respect given the exposition of the point, or the character (when known) of the poster, or the sheer volume of posts in agreement, people do take this stuff seriously. The back-and-forth, even when in jest, does tend to aggregate into a position. Even in the last few months we’ve effected, by this website, numerous positive social changes. Some examples:
Halsey Minor may get a haircut
Kyle may never wear spandex in public again.
Greenberry’s decided not to serve alcohol, as it would alienate the Alco-Anon members there.
Numerous restaurants gained patronage, numerous others made small changes.
We ticked off Waldo and CvilleNews.com.
We increased CLAW attendance, thereby generating more $$ for the charities they help.
We stopped grown men not on or near a horse from wearing cowboy hats in Virginia.
etc.
@57
“I’m sure people would laugh at the “services” fully outlined.” You said it, sweetie, not me.
So if your “Yeah, duh” can be reasonably construed as agreeing with my observation, aren’t you contradicting yourself?
@58
I love it! You crack me up even when I disagree with you! Indubitably!
@60 you are VERY sweet to say so.
i generally try not to tick-off people out here in interwebspace,
as my gentle prose doubtless demonstrates.
/up the pokey!
@59: Oh man, it’s let-me-draw-you-a-picture day:
“I’m sure people would laugh at the “services” fully outlined.”
That means I’m sure if they listed on their site, “Entertain guests for 1 hour with light conversation and wine pouring costs X amount of dollars” somebody somewhere would fine that laughable.
So if your “Yeah, duh” can be reasonably construed as agreeing with my observation, aren’t you contradicting yourself
My yeah, duh was saying, Yeah I know there are such things as car show models and beer girl promoters. No shit.
But marketing yourself as being paid to flirt is gonna get ome reactions from people. Standing in front of a car is one thing and passing out beer is another but it being your job to use playful behavior intended to arouse sexual interest (definition of flirt), it should cause no surprise that people make fun of this enterprise and make jokes about solicitation.
@62
also, looking at these gals in the photos and knowing some of them personally/casually: 1) some being dumb as a box of rocks their flirtations would be forcibly crass and insipid–so ‘conversation’ would be grossly overstating what they can offer and egregiously overpriced; 2) at least a couple would need to be awfully good verbal flirts to arouse anyone or anything given their corruptr souls and rather homely attributes; 3) the whole damn thing is a perversion of human sexual response and in toto denigratory of romantic interaction—already woefully skewed in this sad sick degenerate town and these times.
But “…don’t go chang-ing, to try and please meeeeeeeee…”
Cindylouwho, @63 is an example of slamming and being unkindly. But otter can say that because this is the internetz and we make fun of things.
@62
My, my. You sure seemed to get your knickers in a knot over a simple disagreement.
“I’m sure people would laugh at the “services” fully outlined.”
That means I’m sure if they listed on their site, “Entertain guests for 1 hour with light conversation and wine pouring costs X amount of dollars” somebody somewhere would fine that laughable.”
Again, I disagree. It’s done all the time, all around the country. I personally don’t think marketing themselves as flirtresses leaves them open to speculation, but then that’s me. Perhaps I’m wrong, as demonstrated by the rumors of investigation. We’ll see.
“My yeah, duh was saying, Yeah I know there are such things as car show models and beer girl promoters. No shit.”
Perhaps you should have been more specific. Even so, I would have thought you’d be aware that many event agencies/models provide the same services as the flirtresses. Including marketing themselves as “look but don’t touch” flirts, the flirting being seen as harmless entertainment.
As an aside, I realize casual flirting can be interpreted in a number of ways, and using your definition, I’d be curious to know if you ever flirt when you’re at work. If so, and if your flirting is intended to arouse sexual interest as you say - perhaps in order to get better tips - then what’s the difference? Why is it ok for you and not for them? Because you don’t have the title? Do you think the label flirtress implies more than flirting? I really am very curious about this. BTW, If the answer is no, I never flirt when I’m bartending, I’ll willingly concede that point.
@65, @63
Thank you Shen!!!! i was definitely overstating it to draw criticism and endorse overstatement.
Still, it’s sortof funny to think of charging to scatter scintillating conversation around a wealthy-cultured cocktail-party when that certain flirtress can offer little more than the guy behind the counter at Advance Auto.
@66
in my limited experience, shen doesn’t seem to flirt at work, no.
in part because she is 1) ur-hawt anyways 2) ultra-professional 3) super-busy
@66: I’m not wearing any actually. But you’re fun to dispute.
Entertain guests for 1 hour with light conversation and wine pouring costs X amount of dollars” somebody somewhere would find that laughable.”
Again, I disagree.
Really? You know what everybody everywhere thinks? That’s amazing.
I personally don’t think marketing themselves as flirtresses leaves them open to speculation
Be that as it may, it does. People are speculating, judging, and dissing.
I’d be curious to know if you ever flirt when you’re at work. If so, and if your flirting is intended to arouse sexual interest as you say - perhaps in order to get better tips - then what’s the difference? Why is it ok for you and not for them? Because you don’t have the title?
Yeah, I flirt with guys I find cute. I do not flirt for bigger tips, that’s demeaning. But that’s not the point. I am a bartender and I get paid to make drinks. I do not try to get paid for entertainment.
I also never said that what they’re doing is not ok, I said that people are going to react to what they’re doing and because of the “girl for hire” nature, things may be taken the wrong way. And people will make jokes and speculation anytime a girl is selling herself, be it visually, sexually, or whatever.
this is so fun!
does a flirtress quit once she finds a boyfriend (like in the film Taxi Driver)?
are flirtresses barred from going on non-paying dates with current/former clients (freeeebeeee)?
@67
Your @66 Thanks for answering that question. Never been, didn’t know, naturally curious. Point conceded!
in light of disclosures in @68, please allow me correct myself @66
“in my limited experience, shen doesn’t seem to flirt WITH ME at work, no.”
“in part because I AM 1) not-hawt 2) creepy 3) super-drunk”
@68
So are you **coyly batting eyelashes**. Wish I had more time to respond but my playtime is over for the day. I’d offer to jello-wrestle you over this, but I’d rather wrestle otterdung.
Ooooooohhhhhhh!!!
@73
this is promising, eh Shen?
@72
at your service, Miss.
We have a sliding fee-scale encompassing every form of human interaction, to include scintillating conversation, eyebrow-gymnastics, wine-pouring, boyfriend assault and dismissal, sleepy lurid late-night phone-calls, and the Director’s-Cut-Not-Shown-In-Theaters thingees (please describe your requirements).
does that count as flirting? i’m so confussssed anymore.
Just a random thought as I continue to read this thread. Who the hell is Mr. Margaritta, and what does he offer with his service. I see this ridiculous ad all the time in The Hook an/or Cville. Isn’t this a bit shadier than this Flirtress business.
Again, just a thought. Would love to get some convo going on it though.
Be Well!
does WHICH count as flirting, Tinkertoy?
you want in on this?
@76
Mr. Margaritta? DOES sound shady. Details!!! Could we afford to hire the Flirtresses, Choice Entertainment, and Mr. Margaritta for an evening?… send them all to a rented room and tell them all it’s a regular party and to make sure they don’t let anyone know they’re from a ’service’. Watch them wink and flirt and wiggle themselves silly at each other?
Isn’t this discussion really just conjecture? Speculation? Opinions formed from inconclusive evidence? (Or for some, formed from over-active, under-sexed imaginations?) No one’s accusing, they’re merely…provoking answers through erroneous perceptions and stimulating interpretations of said “profession”.
(And some have defended their provocations quite articulately, imho.)
/Not one for teh snarkiness. Especially online. We’re more smarter than that.
@79
no, no. this whole thread is a thinly veiled device we are using to lure one or two Flirtresses into the discussion so we can e-seduce them away from their profession, teach them to wear foundation garments and sensible shoes, and show them the abiding and unquestioning love they were denied as children.
I suppose I’m technically a flirtress and am just in it for the $ and to see my friends, b/c fuck if I’m not drinking I might as well be around ppl that I like that are
@80, yes the shoes are a big con of the job, as well as gross old men grabbing my ass, the dishwasher constantly staring at my tits, gross drunk guys asking for my #, and stuck up bitches demanding their x-tinis in 15 secs or less, etc.
@81
positively horrifying.
which part
@81: Haha, that dishwasher mumbles, “Legs! Legs!” whenever I go back there.
@83
gross old men grabbing my ass,
the dishwasher constantly staring at my tits,
gross drunk guys asking for my #
lol, him and Ernesto always chat in spanish, but unfortunately the only words I understand are “hola, como estas, bonita, mamacita, and koolo” (sp?)…oh Francisco. He gets mad at me for going out back and smoking, but I’ve seen him do worse…
@85 yes those are the cons, but there are pros, few and far between, money being the best of those and 98% of the people that I work with. Shen, what do you think of the new tendress?
It’s culo. And meh.
Good work, I concurr. I have a question for all. What do you all think of ”flirtresses” or cocktail waitresses in general? I feel like people often do not properly utilize them, and just wait 20 mins in line waiting for a drink at the bar. Maybe I’m biased but in my opinion, a cocktail waitress is like a moving bartender that comes to you whenever you need something without having to wait in line. How come most people don’t utilize their services if in a busy bar?
Yeah, everyone, go to X Lounge and ask for this waitress CRYSTAL. I hear she’s awesome. And has nice tits.
Nice, there’s a plug if I’ve ever heard one, muchos gracias mamacita
@89
“cocktail waitresses in general? I feel like people often do not properly utilize them”
/ i, for one, have always made EXCELLENT use of them.
@91: ¡Que bonitos pechos!
as well as gross old men grabbing my ass,
Guilty!