We’re holding a meeting at 2PM on Sunday at the CrossFit Charlottesville gym. We’re going to use this time to brainstorm ideas for moving forward. Bring your thinking caps or submit ideas in comments below if you can’t make it. We’ve had a lot of interest and expect a “town hall meeting” of sorts. Please make sure you are on time, the meeting will start promptly at 2PM.
If you want to be part of the future of cVillain, this is an important time to make sure it carries on.
The gym is located on the back side of the UTZ/Linen building at the intersection of Meade and East Market. We are across from the cemetery place and Jinx’s BBQ. Take your first right on East Market once you cross Meade. Go around back for parking.
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when we’re done we’ll all do a crossfat workout… maw down some heavy breads and swill back dark beers and sugary cocktails. some of you will probably make out, others will go immediately to their liveblogs and tweeter the whole thing. all in all, a pretty standard internet meetup.
also, “go around back for parking” is that’s what she said.
Any chance there will be a slip n slide?
last chance for anyone on this site to dis-invite me from attending.
Your hair shirt has a stain on it.
i have a tee-time on Monday, so I don’t want to end up in colfer’s or UVALaGrape’s car-trunk wrapped in duct-tape, or with my eyes gouged out by AM, or with a gang of angry ill-dressed villagers waving torches at me from across the moat and below the ramparts of CROSSFIT.
will you be there, BYo? Got my back?
I don’t want to meet him, so I’m not going.
if the shoe fits, Baby.
I am going to wear a Thor #7 nametag and a carnation in my lapel.
I am beginning to think this is a trap. Lure us into Crossfit and make us skinny.
You are correct. Instead of passing the talking stick, we will be doing overhead squats while talking.
Once again Kyle gets a plug in, too.
Can we establish safewords in advance in case things get a little crazy?
Like an electric car?
air freshner, dude. for your stinky gym.
Sweat and tears smell oh so sweet.
“Lost my lunch” is the preferred wordage.
This meeting sounds as amateur and puerile as this website. I’m picturing a collection of hipsters and slackers meeting in their secret treehouse where belmont yo will complain that the darn conservatives are behind the Cvillain shutdown.
I hope you misfits have fun at your meeting of the Encyclopedia Brown mystery club in – everyone bring your decoder rings!
I’ll bring the Capri Suns if someone can bring the fruit-by-the-foot.
Why so grouchy Timmy? You know you’re invited.
Take it easy, TG. Your everything is showing.
More vitriol from ol’ Verbal Sniper?
Well ain’t he quite the stereotyper.
Seems he’s bereft of his wits,
when he pitches his fits,
…until somebody changes his diaper.
Perhaps we should all take note of Verbal Sniper.We are puerile and amateur. I propose we all bitch and moan about excessive parking rates at CHO airport… me first….
parking: there’s absolutely no reason for the high daily parking rates. It absolutely kills me when I come back from a week-long trip to end up paying >$50 to keep my car parked at the airport.
I’d take a cab in lieu of parking, but it is a minimum $30 from downtown (each way.) Plus, there are no alternate parking providers like in many cities to counter the high on-airport parking rates.
(I’d gladly take a shuttle from say, Target, to save a few bucks a day.)
Parking is definitely a cost that I factor in when considering where I fly from.
No one told me that CrossFit was a treehouse! Wicked cool! Does it have a rope ladder? Maybe we can huck water balloons at unsuspecting pedestrians.
I am off to go look up “puerile”.
You know, at first I thought that a limerick with a reference to a diaper would be the natural response to the accusation of being puerile. It seemed to fit somehow, even though I harbor no malice towards Mr. Sniper. But after a year or so of suffering these “anonymous” (heh, right) fly by night snipings from Mr. Sniper and his ilk – folks who seem to hate this board and its regulars so much that they feel compelled to participate, if even in a dismissive way – I dont know if that was the right way to go about it. I have questions.
Mr. Sniper, or Verbal if I may, in reading your ‘passionate’ online writings, you don’t seem like such a bad guy. You paint yourself as an open minded, curious person. You seem to like to debate and kick around political ideas, as I do. Your libertarian stance seems not unlike my own self styled form of political independence, if not for its tenets, then at least for its solitude. You seem genuinely interested in the world and all its many facets. So I wonder… what would possess a person such as your self to pop into a silly little message board like this and act like such a pompous toolbag. I just don’t get it. If this site sucks so much, then why even come here? Why not just ignore it? I mean I find freerepublic and prisonplanet to be my little e-bastions of crazy that I sometimes read for the lulz, but I certainly would never post on their boards to tell them so. What purpose would that serve?
Is it the illusion of anonymity (snicker) that emboldens you to share a side of yourself that you would not if it were say, one of your two blogs with your face and contact info right there? Is it jealousy? Insecurity? I mean, you and Kyle have a lot in common – entrepreneurs and all – it just seems that Kyle gets a little more recognition for his gigs. Could that be it? Did you want your commentless blog to be “the new face of evil”? Its probably better that it wasn’t, I mean, your new job probably keeps you too busy to blog with any regularity, just like Kyle will now be too busy with whipping fatties into shape in his treehouse to run this site.
Or perhaps you just really hate the regulars and it feels good to flip them the bird every once and a while. Thats cool, I guess. Not my style really, but it seems to be therapeutic to those who have some sort of psycho-spiritual void. If thats the case, flip on my brother. We’re here for you, at least for a little while yet. Go on, get it all out.
Pity we did not “meet” before your trip to S.F. in March. I could have turned you on to some much cooler things out there than Lefty O’Doole’s and Fisherman’s Wharf, but oh well. Maybe next time.
Anyway, any elucidation as to the motivation behind your vitriol would be appreciated, though truthfully, I do not expect it. Never hurts to ask though.
/aint the internet cool? its like everything’s connected and stuff…
I can now officially be classed as incontinent.
CrossFit: I can now officially be classed as incontinent.
I swear this is the new “That’s what she said…”
CrossFit: I swear this is the new “That’s what she said…”
/amidoinitrite?
someone teach me how to snoop
someone teach me how to snoop
Well, first you have to keep your mind on your money and your money on your mind, and whatever you do, SIP your gin and juice – never gulp.
Seriously, I’m no expert, but I know a few tricks. Shoot me an email, and I’ll toss you a few tips… you know, for informational purposes only. Prolly stuff you already know though.
May I kick a little something for the Gs?
I dunno. Lemme sleep on it.
Here.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
belmont yo will complain that the darn conservatives are behind the Cvillain shutdown
Wait, what if we are the damn conservatives? Or are you saying he blames the demise on us being here (thereby diminishing the hipness of the site)?
cVillain isn’t an echo chamber. The perceived cliques aren’t real. There is no matrix.
Amen, doc.
Also: There is no spoon, there are four lights, and the cake is a lie.
do not try to bend the spoon
Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball!
If we bring wine and or booze can we bring it and drink it on Sunday? Of course I would bring enough for several others as well…
drinking does not go with the crossfit lifestyle! or so kyle yelled at me one friday.
Sorry I can’t come, the sirens of sand and sun call out.
Hi, I can’t attend this meeting but I am interested in helping Cvillain continue. I can offer non-profit (which I read as a possibility and seems like a good idea) and technical running-a-website expertise. Can someone (who is in charge here?) contact me via email mail@charmedworks.com – before or after the meeting.
If I can come, I will, and then I will tell everybody — it’s now official — about the new restaurant?
You want to hear about it, ne c’est pas?
when’s it opening? tell me NOW! mwah.
Well it’s like anything else of this sort — you want to tell people when it’s going to happen, and, if you’re old enough, as I am, you know better. Because you probably will wind up looking wrong and/or stupid.
But let’s look at a date about exactly a month from now, and we’ll go from there.
dammit, that doesn’t work for me :’(
I’m guessing Kyle locked the doors and made everybody sign up for the gym. They are still there now
i went, and holy shit now i am BUFF.
the gym itself is tres cool, the least pretentious i’ve ever seen—a huge departure from trad soloflexor-hangouts. sorry many of you unable to attend. Kyle and Francesco both VERY impressive and thoughtful.
@52 charmed, hoping you might be serious about offering your expert advice, guidance and other help.
Sure, I’m serious however A. no one got in touch with me and B. looks like from the latest post the shut down is go anyway.
how was the meeting of the minds?
did your wings fit through the door?
do you think the Great Spirit would have allowed me to pull it off
if i had called it an ‘Innuit Roll’ rather than an ‘Eskimou Roll’ ?
Agreed….and I thought the toothless wonder that just approached me at the bar was scary…
It appears that the unresolved issue necessary for the site to continue is the lack of someone willing to assume personal liability, no? If so, I have an ex-pat friend with ties to Charlottesville who happens to live in a country with no extradition agreements with the US (not a criminal, just a coincidence
who would probably be willing to be the liability bearer, as he is literally judgment proof as well as beyond the reach of service-of-process. Interested? Site would continue to be run from Charlottesville and person mentioned wouldn’t even want to be an admin, just “owner” in the strictly legal sense.
If the server in question was to “reside” outside the US and it’s laws and the operator did as well- that would make any suit nearly impossible. Of course if you wanted to sell local ads that might complicate it a tiny bit.
why doesn’t the future owner/admin/author of this website just not use professional photographer’s pictures in the posts? no legality issues there. Just use in-house pictures.
derpy.
Aside from the possibility of using wrongly appropriated copyrighted photos, you’d have to be sure posters or perhaps even commenters weren’t plagiarizing, that nothing posted amounted to slander or libel (which one’s written? I always forget..) and that no harm came from any content (someone comments that so and so is a big fat whore and the person in question jumps off the roof of the Landmark..) to be completely safe.
The downside to having an owner who couldn’t be sued is that said owner also couldn’t sue if the situation required it, but thats a chance that might have to be taken?
posters can talk shit if they want. That is what the Internets is all about.
What I mean by in-house is for example, I write a post, I provide the picture that I took.
Really, it doesn’t have to be so difficult, it’s just no one wants to be boss. I wouldn’t do it because I can’t dedicate the time for it. And that’s the only reason.
Let’s call Bruce Springsteen.
I wrote #76. I was imping tRuckersville. my bad.
libel is written.
how do restaurant and movie reviews get away with it?
obviously the head honcho needs to approve of a piece before it’s posted.
/still doesn’t see what the big deal is
You can freely criticize something as long as you are being truthful, I believe, since truth is an absolute defense. And as long as you aren’t going after a private citizen, etc. you should be in the clear.
/there’s a reason my name is Doc, and not Law
and hasn’t that been the path for as long as Cvillain has been in the works?
I have given more restaurants (The Upstairs, The Local, Korean House, Petit Pois, and the Taste This! event, to name a few) my business since I started reading Cvillain due to the reviews (good and bad).
someone speak up and tell me the legal battefield that is Cvillain other than the M. Rosenwhatever situation.
That is ridiculous. It is an open forum. Similar situation: do you (C.H.) think that celebrities write emails and letters to the annoymous person writing crap about them. Personnally, I’m wondering if Tony Romo dumped Jessica Simpson over her “Mom” jeans and horizontal striped Michael Kors dress she wore in Bethesda.
/expecting email from Jessica Simpson any minute now
FUCKING BRILLIANT.
Servers and any other hardware would have to stay put here in town at an undisclosed location as he is practically off the grid. I’d agree to house them in exchange for a certain number of square inches of advertorial space like exists —> currently, which I could then ’sub-let’ to local businesses and use income to defray the cost of running/maintaining any hardware. He would simply own the domain and therefore be responsible for the content on the rest of the page. As such he wouldn’t need a local incorporation/business license. He would just laugh at a Rosenberg. I went to a domain registration site and they allow ownership for .coms from the country in question.
How much a month does it cost to run this thing, anyway?
Not quite sure how it all works, but are there any servers? I would assume Wordpress handles that side of it.
Kyle should have never aired the Rosenberg dirty laundry on Cvillain in the first place. It was an open invitation.
it’s one thing to be shared among your friends and family but ridiculous to post legal documents on a local forum that can be viewed worldwide.
exactly! who takes the time to do that and report back on the internet.
Rosenberg dirty laundry
I just gagged at the mere thought.
I’m guessing he realizes that in hindsight. We can’t all be perfect all the time.
Yep. The secret server thing is too complicated/bullshit, and the non-profit is unrealistic (You’d still need someone to step up and take responsibility… the missing ingredient currently, plus people to file all of the paperwork and donation tracking, etc. involved in a 501(c)).
Unless someone(s) wants to step up… it’s a fait accompli.
It’s a shame that this had to happen before the UVA students got back, since there could be an enterprising student or two that would like to try their hand at running a website.
I feel bad for those student-villains who left and don’t know about us closing up shop, though.
CVillian: why can’t I quit you?
I’m going to give up my ranting now. I think. URGH!!
If I see any of my frickin slogans on a crossfit t-shirt I’m going to go ape-shit. What ever came of the contest?
The problem isn’t just ultimate legal liability. It is also the cost of having to defend yourself against suits you eventually win.
If you think “sub-let”ting servers isn’t going to get you dragged in – especially when it is clear you did this as part of a plant to make the operation immune to the law – you may well be in for quite a rude surprise if you decide to actually make this the arrangement.
When all the nerdy ass regulars here show up to brunch in a newer BMW to go to a meeting to bitch about their clubhouse and can not provide the $1200 or $2400 to cover the “management” in an infringement lawsuit makes you wonder.
If you notice patterns, just like anyone who can play pacman, rubix-cube or knit a quilt, you would notice most people complaining about the unwholesomeness of “lurkers” or “outsiders” as well as the FACT that this failed site CATERED to twelve or so SHITSTERS who held their clique meetings here daily. All the while waiting on the chain for any response.
The fact that only a clique was accommodated is poor “management.” I quote “management” because many people do not manage and that is their style of management.
I’M A fucking downer…BOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOO!
But I call shit as I see it and I have the support of many others. Maybe your next business venture will have many doors? Most Charlottesville natives and residences could give a flying fuck about pubic shavers and POORLY WRITTEN FOOD REVIEWS.
just a little F.Y.I.
So, where the fuck else should we go for restaurant reviews, now? C-Ville, The Hook, I think not. I’m sure as hell not a fucking nerd and am also a 6th generation native of CVille…. And I enjoy this site.
Mr. Jefferson,
For food reviews, you should go experience it for your self. Congratulation on not being a “nerd” yet you are one of the dirty dozen here. So maybe I should look for some six figure income since I shun no labels post upon me? Congratulations on your enjoyment of this soon to be defunct site.
P.s. I think you have a sweet ass crib Mr. Jefferson. Especially with that nice garden and cider cellar.
Your sweet admiring darling,
Chico FUCKING rico
Why are you wasting your time here?
I’m a lowly I.T. guy. not in search of any recognition from anywhere. just fighting for the little guy.
Yes I have a “SMALL” penis…I call him a little dude. Come what else you got? Gee, my “manhood” feels “threatened.” tRY hARDER!!!!!!!!!
This isn’t very complex from a technical standpoint. You can pay $40/mo for a hosting service and roll out a wordpress blog. This town is large enough to sustain a forum such as cvillain, and I’m willing to get involved as long as there is more transparency in the posting and more updates coming from a wider group over people, instead of the same 5 or 6 people all the time. As I told Kyle in an email, for this site to work, it has to be completely de-commercialized. You can’t run advertisements for local businesses while claiming to offer objective news and reviews. Remember how defensive Kyle got when cvillain’s favorite sophisti-bar, X-Lounge, spammed the entire University of Virginia email list?
As long is the site is not commercial, it can be hosted privately by someone with comcast. However, since you have no guarantee of service, that is a bad idea.
http://www.slicehost.com/ -> $38/mo should handle the needs of the site. I can help set up crap if people are willing to get hosting.
I should note that the cvillain name should probably be kept, if possible. It’s the “brand” and has been around long enough to be recognizable by the city’s internet-savvy people. Relaunch a new and improved site at cvillain.com
But if you help, will we still be able to call you a tosser?
Bring back the coffee bean design!
OXO opening. haha
my suggestions are often rejected!
This is true, but this isn’t a very inviting environment for a variety of reasons.
The site is dying because of the featured post in the home page! Nix it (as a feature). As for the future, Ethan is correct. Or even use a free blogger account. Not sure how touchy they are about complaints, though. Is Google Groups good enough? Hmm. Blogger should be better. Hosted even better. Depending on traffic, you could get by on less than $40/month.
ethan/colfer:
could you give us a couple links to sites you like that are done through those portals?
do they look ‘good’, or can they be coded to look like this one and not like Craigslist chats?
did anyone agree on any of these threads to be the name behind/in-front of such a venture?
would it be one name on the account but a couple administrators approving articles?
is each comment moderated, or would commenters e-mail admin to delete bad ones?
could there be a User’s agreement specifying no copyright violation/slander/libel etc.?
could this be a temporary fix if we decide to go CHARMED to nonprofit status?
will kyle stay involved and can we still use the name Cvillain?
40 bucks a month is do-able. i can cover the first few months until i run out of plasma to sell.
There definitely needs to be a statement against libel and copyright violations. There should also be a statement declaring that reviews and news are intended to be as objective, but no guarantees can be made regarding factual accuracy. We should be more careful with the images that are posted to make sure that they are available for public non-commercial use. Those are typical CYA things.
As for designing blog sites–I haven’t done that with slicehost. Slicehost is just a hosting service that gives you a login and carte blanche to install any required software you need in your space. If Kyle is willing to hand over the code for this wordpress blog, maybe we could use it. Otherwise, we could just download a new, blank wordpress and customize how it looks on our own. That’s not so hard, I think.
ethan… thank you for that detailed reply.
would you consider, just for general info and to get the ball rolling, doinga post for us that would elaborate on these points a tad, answer the questions in @121, and provide a few links so we could get a feel for things… perhaps the ensuing discussion would hash-out our best option, perhaps even bring forth a champion, perhaps lead to a launch?
{i suppose we could make part of the user-agreement to include that ALL photos have to be taken by the person writing the post? that’d cover THAT.}
In the “rules for posting” post, it already says, “You can’t take pictures from other websites unless they have a creative commons license.”
If people could just follow directions…
if it had ever occurred to me to read ANY user-agreement, evuh….
http://cvillainmetablog.blogspot.com/
for example, is free to host. But I don’t know about the Terms of Service. You wouldn’t want a take-down.
colfer, that’s cool as hell.